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	Message #1 of 8173

Re: Welcome Back!!

Fri Jun 5, 1998 6:32 pm
<Declan_Gorman@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Subject: [amos-list] Re: Welcome Back!!
Author: Andy Kellett <mushypd@...> at Internet
Date: 04/06/98 04:13


From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@...>

Hello Declan_Gorman@...

> From: Declan_Gorman@...

>
> Good to see the list back online. Well done Michael.

Yeah, its about friggin' time!! I also have to do a tonne more messing
around to make the news articles posting work, what with these stoopid
adverts at the bottom of messages!! Still, its worth it.

Regards
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	Message #2 of 8173

Welcome back

Fri Jun 5, 1998 1:16 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


I am glad people are joining the list again. There are about 31 signed
up out of 140 from the old list. Perhaps the rest will join us this
weekend.

The list is automated (you can subscribe, unsubscribe, receive digests
by going to the site http://www.onelist.com) so that is one plus. Also,
the subject line contains [amos-list] so you can use your mail program
to sort it out of the other email.

If you have questions or problems, just email me.

> Michael Cox
> --
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> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
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	Message #3 of 8173

Hello [tap tap tap]...Is this thing on...  

Fri Jun 5, 1998 1:29 pm
John Bintz <uv334@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>


I need a musician for a game I'm working on. 4 channel PT mods. Any
takers?

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http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html
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	Message #4 of 8173

First order of business

Fri Jun 5, 1998 4:07 pm
"Stephen Lebed" <slebed@xx.xxxxxx.xxxx>


I'm glad to see this new list up and running. It seems like the old list
was running out of steam. Maybe this time only the people who really care
about Amos will sign up.

First up: How is the development of AmosPro3 going? I'm very interested in
working with a beta version if there is one.

Second: I don't have a monitor that can sync down to television scan rates,
so the Amos Pro2.0 interface can not be displayed on my monitor. Is there a
way of mode promoting it? Will Amos Pro3's interface but able to run on a
graphics card? I'm currently using a Cybervision64 card.

Third: Is there a way to write Amos Pro games for a graphics card with 8,16
or 24bit depth graphics?

Thanks all,

Stephen Lebed
Slebed@...


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	Message #5 of 8173

Re: First order of business

Fri Jun 5, 1998 4:32 pm
Andy Kellett <mushypd@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hello Stephen

> I'm glad to see this new list up and running. It seems like the old list
> was running out of steam. Maybe this time only the people who really care
> about Amos will sign up.

yeah, maybe we can have a real conversation without some lamer moaning too
much about mail size or content, hehe!

> First up: How is the development of AmosPro3 going? I'm very interested
in
> working with a beta version if there is one.

Discussions are still taking place as to what will go into the final
product, as to what exactly should be added/removed/improved. Keep tuned to
my webpages for more info.

> Second: I don't have a monitor that can sync down to television scan
rates,
> so the Amos Pro2.0 interface can not be displayed on my monitor. Is there
a
> way of mode promoting it? Will Amos Pro3's interface but able to run on
a
> graphics card? I'm currently using a Cybervision64 card.

There does exist a program which copies the intuition editor onto a regular
PAL screen, which can then be promoted to any other screenmode. This is
still experimental, and with work under way, probbably not available for a
while yet.

> Third: Is there a way to write Amos Pro games for a graphics card with
8,16
> or 24bit depth graphics?

yep, use the GUI extension V1.7

Regards
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	Message #6 of 8173

Problem

Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:59 pm
"Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@xxxxxx.xxxx>


I have a problem with receiving mails from onelist. It is a problem
with my mail program but I don't want to change it so I want to find
what it is that causes the problem in the first place so I can ask the
author for a fix.

Has anyone any idea what could be different about mails sent from
onelist than other general mails? I do recieve the odd one but miss
90% of them. My mailer downloads it and then just ignores it!

I really need a solution to this because the Backbone list is also on
onelist and its a bit of a hassle having to use a different mail
address for checking onelist mails.

Thanks,
-Murray

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	Message #7 of 8173

Re: Problem

Fri Jun 5, 1998 6:29 pm
Andy Kellett <mushypd@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hello Alastair

> From: "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@...>

> I have a problem with receiving mails from onelist. It is a problem
> with my mail program but I don't want to change it so I want to find
> what it is that causes the problem in the first place so I can ask the
> author for a fix.

> Has anyone any idea what could be different about mails sent from
> onelist than other general mails? I do recieve the odd one but miss
> 90% of them. My mailer downloads it and then just ignores it!

> I really need a solution to this because the Backbone list is also on
> onelist and its a bit of a hassle having to use a different mail
> address for checking onelist mails.

The mail method it uses for delivering is ofdd, it almost seems as tho some
of the headers are missing =/

as for the cure, use your Amiga for the net!

Regards
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	Message #8 of 8173

Re: Problem

Fri Jun 5, 1998 10:03 pm
Alastair Murray <malcolm.murray@xxxxxx.xxxx>


> as for the cure, use your Amiga for the net!

I do!!!
Microdot-II is an amiga mailer!
YAM will download all my mails but seen as it crashes every other minute I'm
not using it...

BTW, to get this message took a lot of hassle....

-Murray


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	Message #9 of 8173

Lost AMOS Pro manual

Sun Jun 7, 1998 11:44 am
AoD <mcox@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx>


I don't suppose anyone has a spare AMOS Pro Manual laying around, do they?
I lost mine during a move to/from Alabama.

Thanks.

Michael
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	Message #10 of 8173

GUI New

Sun Jun 7, 1998 3:23 pm
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>


Undocumented commands

A=Gui Key Shift
A=Gui Mouse Ux
A=Gui Mouse Uy
A$=Gui Pub Name$
A=Gui Gad Tag(B,C,D,E)
Gui Guide A$
Gui Screen Move A,B,C

A=Tcp Address
A=Tcp Free(B)
Tcp Remove A
A=Tcp Response
Tcp Set A,B
A=Tcp Signal(B,C,D)
A=Tcp User

These are all commands from gui extension that I can find no information for
yet. If you have the info, please let me know.

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
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	Message #11 of 8173

Re: Problem

Sun Jun 7, 1998 9:11 am
Peter Cahill <cahill4@xxx.xxx>


On 06-Jun-98, Alastair Murray wrote:
>From: Alastair Murray <malcolm.murray@...>

>> as for the cure, use your Amiga for the net!

>I do!!!
>Microdot-II is an amiga mailer!
>YAM will download all my mails but seen as it crashes every other minute I'm
>not using it...

YAM2.0 crashes all the time, but YAM1.3b is nice, It doesnt use pics
but Ive NEVER had any probs with it, Ive been using it for about a year now
EVERY day and never had a crash. Also it always got all mails without any probs!

Also it takes little mem about 50-100k, so you can keep it and a decent browser
open at the same time!

Do you want it ?
its about 300k I think.

>BTW, to get this message took a lot of hassle....

Well, I get all mails no probs with YAM1.3b give it a try !

cya,
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	Message #12 of 8173

Hello

Mon Jun 8, 1998 11:13 am
"Russell Wild" <casarojo@xxxxx.xxx.xxxx>


Hello,
I've just joined this mailing list, so I thought I'd better introduce
myself. My name is Russell, and I am currently studying for A-Levels with
the aim of being a software developer.
Unfortunately, I had to leave the Amiga about 2 years ago, and enter the
widespread world of the PC. This was mainly due to the fact that the
computer science course I am doing is based around IBMs. Now I've nearly
finished this course, I am free again to spend more time on the Amiga side
of the computer world, which is by far the best!
I had a lot of experience with AMOS Pro, and if it wasn't for that I
probably wouldn't be as good at programming as I am today. No other system,
to my knowledge, has a system quite like AMOS which is a shame.
I hope you can help me to catch up with the latest AMOS happenings.
I am particularly interested in the supposed development of AMOS Pro v3.0.
If anyone knows how I can contact the people involved with this project, I
would be grateful. I would be very interested in a possible port to the IBM
architecture, as this would not only give the PC an easy programming
language, but it would also widen the Amiga's developer base. Surely this is
a good thing? Also, if anyone can give me a rundown on this proposed OS4 and
OS5, I would be grateful.

Thanks,
Russell


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	Message #13 of 8173

Compiler bugs

Mon Jun 8, 1998 12:34 pm
<Magnus.Sjoberg@xxxx.xx>


First of all a big round of applauds (?spelling?)
to Michael Cox for the fast recovery of the AMOS-list.

Over to buissnes:
Here's two new compiler (w/wo patch) bugs I've found.

1/
Pop Proc[value] will compiled always return 0.

2/
A complex multi-level function like
P$=Mid$(Str$(Max(Int(P(Gui Read (WNR,0))-P#),0)),2)
Ю
Fails here and will always return 0.
when compiled.

It'll work if I split it like this:
T=Int(P(Gui Read(WNR,0))-P#)
P$=Mid$(Str$(Max(T,0)),2)

Seems like the compiler can't handle more than a
three-level function!?

Magnus


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	Message #14 of 8173

I'm in

Mon Jun 8, 1998 12:29 pm
Sasu Lintula <samali@xxx.xxx>


Hi, folks.

Just verifying that you all can hear me:)

SLin


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	Message #15 of 8173

Magazine Reviews

Mon Jun 8, 1998 1:04 pm
John Bintz <uv334@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>


How would one go about getting one's product reviewed by certain
magazines? Thanks!

#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@
John C. Bintz - * uv334@... *
@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#*@#
Come Visit Internext Software - the home of great Amiga software!
http://www.dragonfire.net/~JohnBintz/inext/inextsoft.html
*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#@*#


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	Message #16 of 8173

Re: Magazine Reviews

Mon Jun 8, 1998 1:26 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>

>From: John Bintz <uv334@...>
>How would one go about getting one's product reviewed by
certain
>magazines? Thanks!
Usually they have an address (email or snail mail) that you can write to
in the Product Review section of the magazine. If not, write/email the
editor or anyone listed in the front of the magazine.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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	Message #17 of 8173

Releasing Shareware

Mon Jun 8, 1998 8:52 pm
<Declan_Gorman@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>


In the not so distant future I am releasing my first shareware product
and I want to know a couple of things......

Besides my executable program, docs and example files what else would
I need to include? My program makes heavy use of the GUI extension.

How can I make sure that my program works on another persons machine
without fault?

Any other information on this subject would be greatly appreciated.

Declan.


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	Message #18 of 8173

Re: Releasing Shareware

Mon Jun 8, 1998 3:23 pm
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>


On 08-Jun-98, Declan_Gorman@... wrote:
> How can I make sure that my program works on another persons machine
> without fault?

What I do is make up a bare bones floppy (startup-sequence, devs, c, l, libs,
fonts dirs - all empty) and boot from that. If it works, you're laughing.
Remember to use the preboot menu (both mouse buttons) to shut off your hd so
it won't look for any files there. Also, you can use snoopdos to see all the
files your program is looking for when it runs.

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
.----------------------------------------------.
| ______ ______ _____ |
| / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of |
| / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II |
| / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / |
| / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS |
| /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 |
| Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 |
| |
| Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast |
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	Message #19 of 8173

AMOS Web Ring?

Mon Jun 8, 1998 2:58 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


I was wondering if anyone has created an AMOS WebRing? Would that be
something useful?

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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	Message #20 of 8173

Re: AMOS Web Ring?

Mon Jun 8, 1998 4:06 pm
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>

On 08-Jun-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone has created an AMOS WebRing? Would that be
>something useful?

Yes, there is one.

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
.----------------------------------------------.
| ______ ______ _____ |
| / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of |
| / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II |
| / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / |
| / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS |
| /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 |
| Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 |
| |
| Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 16Mb Fast |
`----------------------------------------------'


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	Message #21 of 8173

Re: AMOS Web Ring?

Mon Jun 8, 1998 4:12 pm
Andy Kellett <mushypd@xxxxxxx.xxxx>

Hello Cox,

> From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@...>

> I was wondering if anyone has created an AMOS WebRing? Would that be
> something useful?

Skid Vis runs one. Go to my webpage, its at the bottom of the page.

Regards
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Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
quality prices. See homepage for links.


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	Message #22 of 8173

Re: Magazine Reviews

Mon Jun 8, 1998 4:14 pm
Andy Kellett <mushypd@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hello John

> From: John Bintz <uv334@...>

> How would one go about getting one's product reviewed by certain
> magazines? Thanks!

Depends on the kind of product. Best thing to do for starters, is to get
the Amiga websites interested, like Amiga.org and other related sites, then
get them to include an article with a link to screenshots/info/demo
versions. Most Amiga news sites always print my stuff.

Regards
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*alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

Foundation Mailinglist Moderator - Send mail to
mushypd-foundation@...
with subject as SUBSCRIBE DIGEST / SUBSCRIBE

* Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *
World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk

Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
quality prices. See homepage for links.


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	Message #23 of 8173

E ai , beleza?

Mon Jun 8, 1998 10:59 pm
<erico@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>


Hello everybody again

Just to say I'm here too.
I'm also finishing another game. It is a game based on the old atari
2600 infamous fire fly game , where you are a frog and have to jump-
tongue around to eat the flys.
It features several levels and a number of different bugs , anyone
interested in playing? ( It can be played by four frogs at the same
time in the story mode and in the 'battle'mode , the frogs beat each
other in a cool way...)
anyway , drop me a mail if you are interested or wait a bit for a
demo or the full game
See ya everybody!



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Email: erico@...
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	Message #24 of 8173

Re: E ai , beleza?

Fri Feb 1, 1980 5:44 am
Tonatiuh Moreno <amoeba@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


erico@... wrote:
>
> From: erico@...
>
> Hello everybody again
>
> Just to say I'm here too.
> I'm also finishing another game. It is a game based on the old atari
> 2600 infamous fire fly game , where you are a frog and have to jump-
> tongue around to eat the flys.
> It features several levels and a number of different bugs , anyone
> interested in playing? ( It can be played by four frogs at the same
> time in the story mode and in the 'battle'mode , the frogs beat each
> other in a cool way...)
> anyway , drop me a mail if you are interested or wait a bit for a
> demo or the full game
> See ya everybody!
>

I just LOVED that game on the Atari!
IДd be very happy if you send me a demo.

Thank you!
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	Message #25 of 8173

Pinball or not?

Tue Jun 9, 1998 12:22 pm
Sasu Lintula <samali@xxx.xxx>


Hi,
After finishing my game, Hooked!! (not yet on aminet, still struggling,
eh), I have thought to write a some kind of pinball construction kit. The
final game should have capability to build pinball tables similar to those
21st Century -games. Do you think I'm mad? At the moment I think so;-),
but I have already seen dreams of it, so maybe I have to try to write it.

What I need to know is what would you like to see in that kind of game or
would you like to see it at all?

SLin


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	Message #26 of 8173

Uploading to Aminet

Tue Jun 9, 1998 11:02 pm
<Declan_Gorman@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>


I have a problem where I use a PeeCee in my place of work for all of
my internet access. Aminet insists that a .readme file is required if
the upload is to be considered for the archive. As you all know
PeeCees only recognise a 3 character extension which basically means
that I am unable to submit to Aminet. Any ideas how I might overcome
this? Besides getting my amiga online, which is not an option at this
time.

Thanks in advance.

Declan.


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	Message #27 of 8173

Re: Pinball or not?

Tue Jun 9, 1998 5:31 pm
Christopher Kossa <abattoir@xxxxx.xxxx 


Hello Sasu

> From: Sasu Lintula <samali@...>
>
> Hi,
> After finishing my game, Hooked!! (not yet on aminet, still struggling,
> eh), I have thought to write a some kind of pinball construction kit. The
> final game should have capability to build pinball tables similar to those
> 21st Century -games. Do you think I'm mad? At the moment I think so;-),
> but I have already seen dreams of it, so maybe I have to try to write it.
>
> What I need to know is what would you like to see in that kind of game or
> would you like to see it at all?

I used to like playing with Pinball Construction Set for my C64, I think it
would be cool to see one for the Amiga. I'd only thing I didn't like about
PCS was there were no ramps, and the table was only one screen big. It
would also be great if you could make animated score displays too!

...Chris K
============================================================================


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	Message #28 of 8173

Re: Uploading to Aminet

Tue Jun 9, 1998 5:37 pm
Andy Kellett <mushypd@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hello Declan_Gorman@...

> From: Declan_Gorman@...

>
> I have a problem where I use a PeeCee in my place of work for all of
> my internet access. Aminet insists that a .readme file is required if

> the upload is to be considered for the archive. As you all know
> PeeCees only recognise a 3 character extension which basically means
> that I am unable to submit to Aminet. Any ideas how I might overcome
> this? Besides getting my amiga online, which is not an option at this

> time.
>

sucky Win95 lets you use the long filenames for uploading. Give it a try
anyways, all they can do is deny it. Surely aminet would recognize even a
.rea file. If not, i can do it for you.

Regards
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	Message #29 of 8173

Fala ai galera! (Tonatiuh?)

Tue Jun 9, 1998 6:29 pm
<erico@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>


Hello everybody again

As I said , the frog game(featuring ultra-playabitity) is almost
finished.
I just found out I will need help from people and I wanna know
if someone in the list can:

1- I need some beta testers , preferebly people with different
machines and specially people that can test the game in 4 player
mode.
2- Is Evert-Jan on the list? Wanna make music for this Evert?

So , if anyone can help , drop me a line personally so I can give
you more details.

Tonatiuh , wanna help test? If you don't have time , hang on a
little while cause the game is some 95% done and I intend to give it
free to the list users.

See ya everybody!
------------------------------------------------------------
Ahoy! You got this from Erico Monteiro
Email: erico@...
Work Url: www.tecnopro.com.br
Barca Furada Url: www.angelfire.com/ak/gamecreation

"If you can't find me or encounter any problem...
...call the president"
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	Message #30 of 8173

Extensions

Tue Jun 9, 1998 10:30 pm
Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>


Hello,

I'm going for a complete rewrite of the extension-lists at my site, I'll
also be moving them a bit around at the same time..

The new listings will be frame-free and with as little graphics as
posible, unlike the ones I have now. More speed, less looks you could say.

Now does anyone have something they'd like to be able to see on such a
listings that I'm not allready showing ?? I'd like to have some new ideas
to work with..

Thanks in advance...
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	Message #31 of 8173

Re: Pinball or not?

Tue Jun 9, 1998 12:53 pm
Andy Kellett <mushypd@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hello Sasu

> From: Sasu Lintula <samali@...>

> Hi,
> After finishing my game, Hooked!! (not yet on aminet, still struggling,
> eh), I have thought to write a some kind of pinball construction kit. The
> final game should have capability to build pinball tables similar to those
> 21st Century -games. Do you think I'm mad? At the moment I think so;-),
> but I have already seen dreams of it, so maybe I have to try to write it.

> What I need to know is what would you like to see in that kind of game or
> would you like to see it at all?

I wouldn't mind seeing it, having played pinball brain damage, which is
quite lame IMHO, anything new pinball wise would be great.

Regards
--
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*alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored

Foundation Mailinglist Moderator - Send mail to
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	Message #32 of 8173

Re: Extensions

Wed Jun 10, 1998 12:21 am
Andy Kellett <mushypd@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hello Jens

> From: Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@...>

> Hello,

> I'm going for a complete rewrite of the extension-lists at my site, I'll
> also be moving them a bit around at the same time..

> The new listings will be frame-free and with as little graphics as
> posible, unlike the ones I have now. More speed, less looks you could say.

> Now does anyone have something they'd like to be able to see on such a
> listings that I'm not allready showing ?? I'd like to have some new ideas
> to work with..

How about wehat it would show in the code when not loaded, as sometimes I
get "Extension Q" in my source, and have no idea what slot its assocuated
with =/

Regards
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	Message #33 of 8173

Re: AMOS Web Ring?

Wed Jun 10, 1998 12:49 am
"AceEx" <aceex@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>


>From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@...>
>
>Hello Cox,
>
>> From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@...>
>
>> I was wondering if anyone has created an AMOS WebRing? Would that be
>> something useful?
>
>Skid Vis runs one. Go to my webpage, its at the bottom of the page.

Excuse me for not really knowing but what the heck is a webring and what is
it good for?

Thanx in advance / Johnny Hфllstrіm


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	Message #34 of 8173

Re: Uploading to Aminet

Wed Jun 10, 1998 2:22 am
Richard Griffith <ragriffi@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


On 09-Jun-98, Declan_Gorman@... wrote:
>From: Declan_Gorman@...

>
> I have a problem where I use a PeeCee in my place of work for all of
> my internet access. Aminet insists that a .readme file is required
> if the upload is to be considered for the archive. As you all know
> PeeCees only recognise a 3 character extension which basically means
> that I am unable to submit to Aminet. Any ideas how I might overcome
> this?

From aminet new/README.BEFORE.UPLOAD:

"If you're uploading from a PC, you may use .rea instead
of .readme."

-Richard


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	Message #35 of 8173

Re: AMOS Web Ring?

Wed Jun 10, 1998 3:36 am
Andy Kellett <mushypd@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hello AceEx

> Excuse me for not really knowing but what the heck is a webring and what
is
> it good for?

It allows anyone to pull up a list of related links to the webring, in this
case, other AMOS pages, so they have a variety of pages to go to. Click on
the LIST part on my webpage to see all the sites available.

Regards
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	Message #36 of 8173

Re: Extensions

Wed Jun 10, 1998 11:14 am
Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>


Hello Andy

On 10-Jun-98, Andy Kellett smashed the keyboard with:
> [Ideas for extension-list]
> How about wehat it would show in the code when not loaded, as sometimes I
> get "Extension Q" in my source, and have no idea what slot its assocuated
> with =/

Cool, noted. It'll be there (Proberly in the 'index-file' ;-)

I'm considering to make a FAQ for extensions also (NOT for each one, but
for some general problems). Any ideas what could be usefull ??
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	Message #37 of 8173

Re: Uploading to Aminet

Wed Jun 10, 1998 11:32 am
Sasu Lintula <samali@xxx.xxx>

On Tue, 9 Jun 1998 Declan_Gorman@... wrote:

> From: Declan_Gorman@...
>
>
> I have a problem where I use a PeeCee in my place of work for all of
> my internet access. Aminet insists that a .readme file is required if
> the upload is to be considered for the archive. As you all know
> PeeCees only recognise a 3 character extension which basically means
> that I am unable to submit to Aminet. Any ideas how I might overcome
> this? Besides getting my amiga online, which is not an option at this
> time.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Declan.
>

It is allowed to use ".rea" -files when uploading files to Aminet if you
are using PeeCee.

SLin


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	Message #38 of 8173

Re: Pinball or not?

Wed Jun 10, 1998 12:02 pm
Sasu Lintula <samali@xxx.xxx>


On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Christopher Kossa wrote:

> From: Christopher Kossa <abattoir@...>
>
> Hello Sasu
>
> > From: Sasu Lintula <samali@...>
> >
> > Hi,
> > After finishing my game, Hooked!! (not yet on aminet, still struggling,
> > eh), I have thought to write a some kind of pinball construction kit. The
> > final game should have capability to build pinball tables similar to those
> > 21st Century -games. Do you think I'm mad? At the moment I think so;-),
> > but I have already seen dreams of it, so maybe I have to try to write it.
> >
> > What I need to know is what would you like to see in that kind of game or
> > would you like to see it at all?
>
> I used to like playing with Pinball Construction Set for my C64, I think it
> would be cool to see one for the Amiga. I'd only thing I didn't like about
> PCS was there were no ramps, and the table was only one screen big. It
> would also be great if you could make animated score displays too!
>
> ...Chris K

That would be nothing like PCS:-)

Main problem of building pinball table is its dimensions; ball can go
under and over objects. I have thought to solve this problem by using
sprite priority control with bitplanes (f.ex. sprite has priority greater than
than bitplanes 0,2 & 4 and smaller than bps 1 & 3 when using screen
with 5 bitplanes. This is fast method of hide ball under certain objects
but it means that I have to use smaller palette.

Should I use bobs to gain more colours? I'm afraid that would be too slow?

BTW: Could someone tell names of all those objects laying on pinball
table in english, of course:-0

SLin


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	Message #39 of 8173

Re: Pinball or not?

Wed Jun 10, 1998 12:04 pm
Sasu Lintula <samali@xxx.xxx>


On Tue, 9 Jun 1998, Andy Kellett wrote:

> From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@...>
>
> Hello Sasu
>
> > From: Sasu Lintula <samali@...>
>
> > Hi,
> > After finishing my game, Hooked!! (not yet on aminet, still struggling,
> > eh), I have thought to write a some kind of pinball construction kit. The
> > final game should have capability to build pinball tables similar to those
> > 21st Century -games. Do you think I'm mad? At the moment I think so;-),
> > but I have already seen dreams of it, so maybe I have to try to write it.
>
> > What I need to know is what would you like to see in that kind of game or
> > would you like to see it at all?
>
> I wouldn't mind seeing it, having played pinball brain damage, which is
> quite lame IMHO, anything new pinball wise would be great.
>
> Regards
> --
> Email: Andy Kellett <mushypd@...> Team *AMOS* + IAPA Team *AMIGA*
> *alt.religion.amos* - AMOS now on usenet! AMOS Mailinglist also mirrored
>
> Foundation Mailinglist Moderator - Send mail to
> mushypd-foundation@...
> with subject as SUBSCRIBE DIGEST / SUBSCRIBE
>
> * Proud Member of the AMOSPro V3 Development Team & Official AMOS Library *
> World's Largest AMOS Homepages - http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk
>
> Also official US distributor of F1 Software. Quality Amiga titles at
> quality prices. See homepage for links.

So, maybe I have to try to do it:-|
I may need some help later (graphics, sound).

SLin


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	Message #40 of 8173

Re: Extensions

Wed Jun 10, 1998 1:16 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


>Now does anyone have something they'd like to be able to see on
such a
>listings that I'm not already showing ?? I'd like to have some
new ideas
A listing of all the commands would be nice. There was a command (I
think) in the Range/Shuffle extension that would list all the commands.
I think AMCAF has it also.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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	Message #41 of 8173

Re: Pinball or not?

Wed Jun 10, 1998 3:43 pm
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>


On 10-Jun-98, Sasu Lintula wrote:
>BTW: Could someone tell names of all those objects laying on pinball
>table in english, of course:-0

The thing that first shoots tha ball out is the plunger
The things you hit the ball with are the flippers
The two things at the bottom that send the ball back and forth are called
kickers
The round things that knock the ball around are called bumpers
The thing that you go through and it spins is called a spinner
The things you can hit and they fall down into the board are called
knockdowns.

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
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		Message #42 of 8173

Re: Extensions

Wed Jun 10, 1998 3:44 pm
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>


On 10-Jun-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
>A listing of all the commands would be nice.

There is a prg to do that already. It's on Mush's ftp. Extesnsion Command
Lister it is. It gives all the commands in an extension lib and the format
(=RGB(A)).

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
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| /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 |
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	Message #43 of 8173

Ateo Tower

Wed Jun 10, 1998 4:56 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


I am looking into expanding my A1200 and a vendor wrote back saying:

We have a tower system that will solve your problem. The Ateo Tower
system with their Pixel64 Graphics board. It is a 2 Meg graphics card
on an ISA type bus system that Ateo has developed.
------
I was wondering if anyone has an Ateo Tower system with a Pixel64
graphics card? Does AMOS still work with it? Anything not work with
it?

Thanks.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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	Message #44 of 8173

Re: Uploading to Aminet

Tue Jun 9, 1998 7:19 pm
Peter Cahill <cahill4@xxx.xxx>


On 10-Jun-98, Declan_Gorman@... wrote:

Hi !

>
> I have a problem where I use a PeeCee in my place of work for all of
> my internet access. Aminet insists that a .readme file is required if
> the upload is to be considered for the archive. As you all know
> PeeCees only recognise a 3 character extension which basically means
> that I am unable to submit to Aminet. Any ideas how I might overcome
> this? Besides getting my amiga online, which is not an option at this
> time.
>

Yeah, Try this:

Upload your readme file to AMINET with a 3 letter extension,
then AFTER uploading RENAME the uploaded readme file, for it to
end with '.readme'.

> Thanks in advance.

nP...


cya,
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\ \/ / /
\_ \__ Жооооооооо /^^\ (^^) | /
\__ \ LPPPPPPPO {ZЏЏC} (TTЏЏO)|/ pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE
\_\ LP Pа {Z C} (TO O) gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES
LP PO {Z C} (O o aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG
LP PO {Z O} (O sUPPORT aS wELL aS gIVING
LOOOOo/ {AXXXXXXOO} (O \_ aMOS mUCH fASTER bOBS,
/|LI {AXXXXXXXXX!} (O o| \ sPRITES aND aLL tHE
/ /OO {/ !} (O C) \ \ oTHER kEWL THINGS lIKE
/ Џ / |/ {/ !} (TO C) | \__cDDA aND uNCRACKABLE
/Џ/ЏЏ/ C/ /A} (ППП) \ \ mEMORY bANK
/ / \ | eNCYRPTION tHAT
Џ / cAHILL4@... \ \ aNY cODER cOULD
/ http://www.iol.ie/~cahill4/peter/index.html \ \ eVER aSK fOR !!
/ | \


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		Message #45 of 8173
Re: Ateo Tower

Wed Jun 10, 1998 8:00 pm
Christopher Kossa <abattoir@xxxxx.xxxx>


Hello Cox,

On 10-Jun-98, you, Cox, Michael D were yapping about...
> From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@...>
>
> I am looking into expanding my A1200 and a vendor wrote back saying:
>
> We have a tower system that will solve your problem. The Ateo Tower
> system with their Pixel64 Graphics board. It is a 2 Meg graphics card
> on an ISA type bus system that Ateo has developed.
> ------
> I was wondering if anyone has an Ateo Tower system with a Pixel64
> graphics card? Does AMOS still work with it? Anything not work with
> it?

Any Zorro card! Ateo Tower system (with the Ateo bus board) use ISA slots
instead of Zorro slots. They are supposed to have a full line of cards,
like 16-bit sound card, ethernet and stuff. Check it out at
http://www.ateo-concepts.com/ to read all about it.

...Chris K
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	Message #46 of 8173

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		Message #47 of 8173

Re: Extensions

Wed Jun 10, 1998 6:00 pm
Peter Cahill <cahill4@xxx.xxx>


On 10-Jun-98, Andy Kellett wrote:

>> Hello,

Hi

>> I'm going for a complete rewrite of the extension-lists at my site, I'll
>> also be moving them a bit around at the same time..

>> The new listings will be frame-free and with as little graphics as
>> posible, unlike the ones I have now. More speed, less looks you could say.

>> Now does anyone have something they'd like to be able to see on such a
>> listings that I'm not allready showing ?? I'd like to have some new ideas
>> to work with..

>How about wehat it would show in the code when not loaded, as sometimes I
>get "Extension Q" in my source, and have no idea what slot its assocuated
>with =/

Extension Q is slot 16, so thats probably EasyLife.
Heres a table which I just made now..

'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'
| Ext | Slot |
| Letter | No |
| | |
|----------|--------|
| | |
| B | 01 |
| C | 02 |
| D | 03 |
| E | 04 |
| F | 05 |
| G | 06 |
| H | 07 |
| I | 08 |
| J | 09 |
| K | 10 |
| L | 11 |
| M | 12 |
| N | 13 |
| O | 14 |
| P | 15 |
| Q | 16 |
| R | 17 |
| S | 18 |
| T | 19 |
| U | 20 |
| V | 21 |
| W | 22 |
| X | 23 |
| Y | 24 |
| Z | 25 |
'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'-'

I hope this helps you...


-
\ \ | /
\ \ _\ __/ /
\ | \ / __/
\ \/ / /
\_ \__ Жооооооооо /^^\ (^^) | /
\__ \ LPPPPPPPO {ZЏЏC} (TTЏЏO)|/ pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE
\_\ LP Pа {Z C} (TO O) gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES
LP PO {Z C} (O o aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG
LP PO {Z O} (O sUPPORT aS wELL aS gIVING
LOOOOo/ {AXXXXXXOO} (O \_ aMOS mUCH fASTER bOBS,
/|LI {AXXXXXXXXX!} (O o| \ sPRITES aND aLL tHE
/ /OO {/ !} (O C) \ \ oTHER kEWL THINGS lIKE
/ Џ / |/ {/ !} (TO C) | \__cDDA aND uNCRACKABLE
/Џ/ЏЏ/ C/ /A} (ППП) \ \ mEMORY bANK
/ / \ | eNCYRPTION tHAT
Џ / cAHILL4@... \ \ aNY cODER cOULD
/ http://www.iol.ie/~cahill4/peter/index.html \ \ eVER aSK fOR !!
/ | \


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	Message #48 of 8173

Non-AMOS: Hard Drives

Thu Jun 11, 1998 8:24 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


I was wondering if anyone has the Toshiba MK3205MAV 2.5", IDE, 3.2GB
drive in their A1200? Some say it is EIDE (I assume the A1200 can
handle this).

I am upgrading my system (I may not get a tower as all it does is give
me a graphics card and might require me to have 2 monitors) as you can
tell by my recent messages. Speaking of towers and graphic cards,
anyone using them? I'd like one that uses 1 monitor for all screen
modes (PAL, NTSC, etc.).

Please email me off-list as this really is way off-topic except for:

I have not tried the FD extension but was going to look into it as it
seems to give access to lots of external libraries. How well does it
work, etc?

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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	Message #49 of 8173

Extension Shambles

Fri Jun 12, 1998 12:29 am
Andy H <geosync@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>


Hi all,

I just loaded a program from Amos 1.36 and some of my commands have
turned to Extension I etc.
Are there extensions for the the following commands?....
a) Comp Test On / Off - speeds up execution of compiled prog/disables
sprites etc.
b) Multi Yes / No - switches multi tasking on and off
c) Plot - but faster version
d) Draw - but faster version
e) Point - but faster version
f) Polygon - but faster version
g) Tile Paste - but faster version
h) Vbl Wait (x) - to set the raster line
I`ve heard that the Turbo Ext may have some of these but I`ve also heard
you can only get the demo version which doesn`t compile, and it`s not
possible to upgrade to full version because it`s no longer supported.
Is this true?

Seeya,
Andy H.
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_______________________________
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| *************************** |
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	Message #50 of 8173

assign directory

Thu Jun 11, 1998 10:47 pm
<erico@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>


hello there

I suspect this subject have already been discussed but anyways...
... how do I make my amos program auto assign its directory on run?

thanks
------------------------------------------------------------
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		Message #51 of 8173

Re: assign directory

Fri Jun 12, 1998 3:17 am
Andy Kellett <mushypd@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hello erico@...

> From: erico@...

> hello there

> I suspect this subject have already been discussed but anyways...
> ... how do I make my amos program auto assign its directory on run?

use:

assign "Value:" to Dir$

Dir$ will always be the current directory you loaded with unless you
changed it beforehand.

Regards
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	Message #52 of 8173

Re: Extension Shambles

Thu Jun 11, 1998 10:58 pm
Peter Cahill <cahill4@xxx.xxx>


On 12-Jun-98, Andy H wrote:

>Hi all,

Hi,

>I just loaded a program from Amos 1.36 and some of my commands have
>turned to Extension I etc.
>Are there extensions for the the following commands?....
>a) Comp Test On / Off - speeds up execution of compiled prog/disables
>sprites etc.
>b) Multi Yes / No - switches multi tasking on and off
>c) Plot - but faster version
>d) Draw - but faster version
>e) Point - but faster version
>f) Polygon - but faster version
>g) Tile Paste - but faster version
>h) Vbl Wait (x) - to set the raster line
>I`ve heard that the Turbo Ext may have some of these but I`ve also heard
>you can only get the demo version which doesn`t compile, and it`s not
>possible to upgrade to full version because it`s no longer supported.
>Is this true?

Yeah, those commands are out of the turbo extension,
which is by the author of Powerbobs, it is unsupported now though !

cya
--
\ \ | /
\ \ _\ __/ /
\ | \ / __/
\ \/ / /
\_ \__ Жооооооооо /^^\ (^^) | /
\__ \ LPPPPPPPO {ZЏЏC} (TTЏЏO)|/ pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE
\_\ LP Pа {Z C} (TO O) gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES
LP PO {Z C} (O o aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG
LP PO {Z O} (O sUPPORT aS wELL aS gIVING
LOOOOo/ {AXXXXXXOO} (O \_ aMOS mUCH fASTER bOBS,
/|LI {AXXXXXXXXX!} (O o| \ sPRITES aND aLL tHE
/ /OO {/ !} (O C) \ \ oTHER kEWL THINGS lIKE
/ Џ / |/ {/ !} (TO C) | \__cDDA aND uNCRACKABLE
/Џ/ЏЏ/ C/ /A} (ППП) \ \ mEMORY bANK
/ / \ | eNCYRPTION tHAT
Џ / cAHILL4@... \ \ aNY cODER cOULD
/ http://www.iol.ie/~cahill4/peter/index.html \ \ eVER aSK fOR !!
/ | \


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	Message #53 of 8173

SV: [amos-list] Re: Pinball or not?

Fri Jun 12, 1998 7:01 pm
<Magnus.Sjoberg@xxxx.xx>


On Wen, 10 Jun 1998, Mr. Giark To You wrote:
>>BTW: Could someone tell names of all those objects laying on pinball
>>table in english, of course:-0

>The thing that first shoots tha ball out is the plunger
>The things you hit the ball with are the flippers
>The two things at the bottom that send the ball back and forth are
called
>kickers
>The round things that knock the ball around are called bumpers
>The thing that you go through and it spins is called a spinner
>The things you can hit and they fall down into the board are called
>knockdowns.
Hmm, IFAK those are called 'drop-targets' and the ones that won't fall
down just 'targets'. Won't argue with you about it though.

We've also got:
Ramps, I doesn't need to explain that one, do I.
Lanes, Those on the outside of the kickers guiding the ball to the
flippers
or out of play.
Gates, Often seen on older pinball games. Redirects balls in lanes/ramps
to other lanes/ramps.
Button, A switch on the pinball-table the ball can roll over.
Locker or Trap-hole, A pit in the pinball-table. Ball-speed has to be
right
for ball to stay. Has a kicker to eject the ball.
Kick-backs, Ball-savers in the outer lanes who kicks the ball back on to
the table.
Lamps whith a char are often reffered as 'Letter', others with the
actual
text written on them. One with a number or nothing at all are called
'Led'.

Maybe I can recall some more later.

Regards
Magnus
>
>
>
>


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	Message #54 of 8173

Getting the system date in AMOS

Tue Jun 9, 1998 12:59 am
Joona I Palaste <palaste@xx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx.xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx>


Just for a funny turn, I thought I'd tell you how I can read the system
date in my AMOS games "Mr UFO" and "RoboQuest". AMOS has no standard
command for this. I've heard it can be done with some memory functions,
but I couldn't bother doing this, so I "cheated". Here is what I did:

If Exist("c:date")
Exec "c:date >t:date.tmp"
Open In 1,"t:date.tmp"
A$=Input$(1,Lof(1))
Print "The system date is: ";A$;"."
Close 1
Else
Print "c:date does not exist."
End If

Sorry for the AMOS thingy, but the newsgroup IS
comp.sys.AMIGA.progammer and not either
comp.sys.amiga.C.programmer or
comp.sys.amiga.ASSEMBLER.programmer. =)

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	Message #55 of 8173

AMOS Source Code

Sun Jun 14, 1998 10:47 am
"Russell Wild" <casarojo@xxxxx.xxx.xxxx>


Hello, can anyone give me a web/mail address for the group of developers who
have the AMOS Pro? Also, does anyone know exactly how AMOS Pro is written -
Assembler or a language such as C or C++?

Thanks,
Russell


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	Message #56 of 8173

The Future of AMOS

Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:59 pm
"Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@xxxxxx.xxxx>


With all these new amiga developments going on I can't help wondering
how it's going to affect AMOS. I looks like the 68k processors are
going to be even more out of date quite soon.
PPC looked like the next step but now it seems amiga is taken a
different path... again.
How is the new amos going to work with all these changes?
I get the impression that by the time it is even completed it will be
made old again (like it was when AGA came along).
Is there no hope of it being able to produce code for new processors
or is it forever stuck with 68k short of a total rewrite?

-Murray

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|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
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| game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator |
|game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II |
| game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator|
| dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault|
| pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | |
| game/shoot/KillEmAll | | |
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	Message #57 of 8173

I'm back.

Mon Jun 15, 1998 12:18 am
"Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@xxx.xxxx>


Greetings from the Lone Star state (of Texas).

Hello all. I've noticed the List has gone through a few things the past
couple of weeks, and fortunately I got my end all straightened out right
before I moved, through a little help from Mike (the List Admin.) Thanks.

Just wanted to say a quick 'Hey' to everyone (that's still left, heh) now
that I am moved to my new location. All that's left is reading this mail!

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@..., work: parrottsoft@...
Webmaster of Parrottsoft and proud member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA.
Visit the Parrottsoft website at http://parrottsoft.hypermart.net


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	Message #58 of 8173

Turbo+ Questions (was Extension Shambles).

Mon Jun 15, 1998 12:52 am
"Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@xxx.xxxx>


> Andy Hawkins <geosync@...> wrote:
> Are there extensions for the the following commands?....

Yes, it is Turbo Plus+, just as Peter mentioned. It is true that it's no
longer supported, however I do have a copy (registered coverdisk copy) that
I obtained from Chris Evans for a nominal fee. I could do the same if you
and give you a copy if you need it. Mail me if you're interested.

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@..., work: parrottsoft@...
Webmaster of Parrottsoft and proud member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA.
Visit the Parrottsoft website at http://parrottsoft.hypermart.net


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	Message #59 of 8173

Pinball idea (was Pinball or not?).

Mon Jun 15, 1998 1:09 am
"Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@xxx.xxxx>


> I have thought to write a some kind of pinball construction kit. The
> final game should have capability to build pinball tables similar to
> those 21st Century -games. Do you think I'm mad?

No not mad, just insane. :) No, really, sounds like an interesting idea.
Believe it or not, several weeks ago I started kicking around the idea for
a new pinball game (written in AMOS) as my next project (this was after
playing Digital Illusions' Pinball Dreams after several hours). Atm, it's
just an outline with some graphics, but it seems to be coming along. If
anything does comes of it, I'll let everyone know. The game style, btw,
WiLL be very similar to the pinball games made by 21st Century (ibed).

> At the moment I think so ;-), but I have already seen dreams of it, so
> maybe I have to try to write it. What I need to know is what would you
> like to see in that kind of game or would you like to see it at all?

Well, that's how things begin my friend, they are dreamed. As far as a
Construction Set goes? Well, what's already been mentioned on the List
sounds good, along with an intuitive interface (GUI Ext?) and the ability
to load large tables. Of course you'll have to have a system or a program
that will LOAD and RUN these tables (hint hint). If my pinball idea comes
along, perhaps I'll add support for your tables, so long as you give me an
idea on approx. filesize, table format and how they're laid out and such.

Adam Parrott, personal: parrotta@..., work: parrottsoft@...
Webmaster of Parrottsoft and proud member of Team *AMOS* and the IAPA.
Visit the Parrottsoft website at http://parrottsoft.hypermart.net


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	Message #60 of 8173

See through Screens

Mon Jun 15, 1998 8:42 am
Adam Templeton <adam@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxxx>


Hi all,

I am writing to ask if anyone knows a way to make screens see through or a
colour transparent when you use screen display so that I can make the
background colour Black see through eg. There is a screen with a picture
of a face for example and on another screen there is a picture of a room
(like in the game Dune, the first one) And I want it to be able to see
through that screen to the other on.

Thanks

PS It's good this is back


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		Message #61 of 8173

Re: SV: [amos-list] Re: Pinball or not?

Mon Jun 15, 1998 10:45 am
Sasu Lintula <samali@xxx.xxx>


On Fri, 12 Jun 1998 Magnus.Sjoberg@... wrote:

> From: Magnus.Sjoberg@...
>
> On Wen, 10 Jun 1998, Mr. Giark To You wrote:
> >>BTW: Could someone tell names of all those objects laying on pinball
> >>table in english, of course:-0
>
> >The thing that first shoots tha ball out is the plunger
> >The things you hit the ball with are the flippers
> >The two things at the bottom that send the ball back and forth are
> called
> >kickers
> >The round things that knock the ball around are called bumpers
> >The thing that you go through and it spins is called a spinner
> >The things you can hit and they fall down into the board are called
> >knockdowns.
> Hmm, IFAK those are called 'drop-targets' and the ones that won't fall
> down just 'targets'. Won't argue with you about it though.
>
> We've also got:
> Ramps, I doesn't need to explain that one, do I.
> Lanes, Those on the outside of the kickers guiding the ball to the
> flippers
> or out of play.
> Gates, Often seen on older pinball games. Redirects balls in lanes/ramps
> to other lanes/ramps.
> Button, A switch on the pinball-table the ball can roll over.
> Locker or Trap-hole, A pit in the pinball-table. Ball-speed has to be
> right
> for ball to stay. Has a kicker to eject the ball.
> Kick-backs, Ball-savers in the outer lanes who kicks the ball back on to
> the table.
> Lamps whith a char are often reffered as 'Letter', others with the
> actual
> text written on them. One with a number or nothing at all are called
> 'Led'.
>
> Maybe I can recall some more later.
>
> Regards
> Magnus
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Thanx.

SLin


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	Message #62 of 8173

SV: [amos-list] AMOS Source Code

Mon Jun 15, 1998 12:18 pm
<Magnus.Sjoberg@xxxx.xx>


>Hello, can anyone give me a web/mail address for the group of
developers who
>have the AMOS Pro? Also, does anyone know exactly how AMOS Pro
is written -
>Assembler or a language such as C or C++?

>Thanks,
>Russell

AMOS Pro is written in Assembler and the web-page is

http://www.seta.it/amos/

Regards
Magnus


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	Message #63 of 8173

SV: [amos-list] The Future of AMOS

Mon Jun 15, 1998 12:30 pm
<Magnus.Sjoberg@xxxx.xx>


> Alastair Murray wrote
>
>With all these new amiga developments going on I can't help
wondering
>how it's going to affect AMOS. I looks like the 68k processors
are
>going to be even more out of date quite soon.
>PPC looked like the next step but now it seems amiga is taken a
>different path... again.
>How is the new amos going to work with all these changes?
>I get the impression that by the time it is even completed it
will be
>made old again (like it was when AGA came along).
>Is there no hope of it being able to produce code for new
processors
>or is it forever stuck with 68k short of a total rewrite?

Hopefully the new AMOS will be 100% system-friendly and will
also
be avalible for different processors. A correct written code
without
dirty hacks will work on future OS.

A compiler that can produce code for 68k/PPC/x86 would be nice
too.

As for GFX/SFX I beleve it's important that RTG and AHI support
are implemented.

Regards
Magnus


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		Message #64 of 8173

Re: Pinball idea (was Pinball or not?).

Mon Jun 15, 1998 11:55 am
Sasu Lintula <samali@xxx.xxx>


On Sun, 14 Jun 1998, Adam Parrott wrote:

> From: "Adam Parrott" <parrottsoft@...>
>
> > I have thought to write a some kind of pinball construction kit. The
> > final game should have capability to build pinball tables similar to
> > those 21st Century -games. Do you think I'm mad?
>
> No not mad, just insane. :) No, really, sounds like an interesting idea.
> Believe it or not, several weeks ago I started kicking around the idea for
> a new pinball game (written in AMOS) as my next project (this was after
> playing Digital Illusions' Pinball Dreams after several hours). Atm, it's
> just an outline with some graphics, but it seems to be coming along. If
> anything does comes of it, I'll let everyone know. The game style, btw,
> WiLL be very similar to the pinball games made by 21st Century (ibed).

Very interesting...

>
> > At the moment I think so ;-), but I have already seen dreams of it, so
> > maybe I have to try to write it. What I need to know is what would you
> > like to see in that kind of game or would you like to see it at all?
>
> Well, that's how things begin my friend, they are dreamed. As far as a
> Construction Set goes? Well, what's already been mentioned on the List
> sounds good, along with an intuitive interface (GUI Ext?) and the ability
> to load large tables. Of course you'll have to have a system or a program
> that will LOAD and RUN these tables (hint hint). If my pinball idea comes
> along, perhaps I'll add support for your tables, so long as you give me an
> idea on approx. filesize, table format and how they're laid out and such.

At the moment I'm using Amos Classic 1.36, so there are no Intuition
support. Maybe writing this game will take so long time that I can finish
it with AmosPro V3 (hurry, hurry).
At the moment my editor can handle Tables sized 320x512 in 64 colours.
I'm not sure if that is best size for tables but at least it works for me.

SLin


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	Message #65 of 8173

AWeb & Amiga Web Directory

Mon Jun 15, 1998 12:46 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


I was wondering if anyone uses AWeb and has problems viewing the
subscribe URL (http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/amos-list)?
If you want to view past messages, you can go to
http://www.onelist.com/archives.cgi/amos-list and take a look. I will
also be uploading them monthly to Aminet as usual.

Also, now if you search on the Amiga Web Directory
(http://www.cucug.org/amiga.html) for AMOS, it will bring up the
subscription URL for the mailing list. This should help bring AMOS back
into the spotlight some.

Anyone upgraded their A1200 to OS3.1? What exactly does it involve, is
it worth it and does it affect AMOS?

Thanks.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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	Message #66 of 8173

AMOS Copyright Notice

Mon Jun 15, 1998 6:06 pm
<Declan_Gorman@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>


I was reading through the AMOS Pro compiler manual last night and am
wondering if the section about using the AMOS sprite still needs
stands?

As my program uses the GUI extension and therefore nowhere to place
the AMOS sprite, would it be enough to say in my documentation that
the program was coded with AMOS Pro?

Declan.


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		Message #67 of 8173

Re: AWeb & Amiga Web Directory

Mon Jun 15, 1998 3:20 pm
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>


On 15-Jun-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone uses AWeb and has problems viewing the

I stopped using AWeb because it crashed too often.

>upgraded their A1200 to OS3.1?

ROM or just software? If just software, I'm using 3.1 now and AMOS works fine.

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
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		Message #68 of 8173

Re: AWeb & Amiga Web Directory

Mon Jun 15, 1998 3:40 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


>>upgraded their A1200 to OS3.1?
>ROM or just software? If just software, I'm using 3.1 now and
AMOS works fine.
I was thinking ROM but I did not know if it was possible in the A1200 (I
thought they were not in sockets on the A1200). It is good to hear that
the just software option is not a problem for AMOS.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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	Message #69 of 8173

Amos Info

Mon Jun 15, 1998 5:25 pm
robert waugh <cbminfo@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


Can someone say just which is the current version of AMOS, IF someone has this
version for sale, a price for it, and is AMOS now capable of NTSC operation
without lots of trouble ?


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		Message #70 of 8173

Re: Amos Info

Mon Jun 15, 1998 4:41 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


>Can someone say just which is the current version of AMOS, IF someone
has this
>version for sale, a price for it
AMOS Creator is v1.36, AMOS Pro is v2.0. Easy AMOS is v1.01. I think
Turtle Lightning Software has a used AMOS Pro v1 (you have to buy the
compiler to get v2.0) for sale about $17. His email address is:
turtleguy@...

>and is AMOS now capable of NTSC operation without lots of trouble ?
NTSC works fine on AMOS Pro v1 and newer and works fine on AMOS Creator
as of, what, v1.31 and newer? I can not even remember what problems
there were with AMOS Creator and NTSC.

While I am here, if you have an AMOS web page you should register it
with Amiga Web Directory. It may help bring traffic and new users.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: robert waugh [SMTP:cbminfo@...]
> Sent: Monday, June 15, 1998 7:25 AM
> To: amos-list@onelist.com
> Subject: [amos-list] Amos Info
>
> From: robert waugh <cbminfo@...>
>
> Can someone say just which is the current version of AMOS, IF someone
> has this
> version for sale, a price for it, and is AMOS now capable of NTSC
> operation
> without lots of trouble ?
>
>
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	Message #71 of 8173

Re: Amos Info

Mon Jun 15, 1998 7:18 pm
robert waugh <cbminfo@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


>>Can someone say just which is the current version of AMOS, IF someone
>has this version for sale, a price for it
>AMOS Creator is v1.36, AMOS Pro is v2.0. Easy AMOS is v1.01. I think
>Turtle Lightning Software has a used AMOS Pro v1 (you have to buy the
>compiler to get v2.0) for sale about $17. His email address is:
>turtleguy@...

This is all good, I suppose, but... What is what ? What do you need with
amos to write a basic program ?

I don't know why but a lot of people leave out the details that make
everything they've said pretty well useless ie: assuming that who they're
writing to knows all they do. I know ZIP about Amos. I recall the 64 and 128.
type a line number put some basic code on it, add another line etc.. until
you have a program then save and run it. I see 4 programs mentioned above,
and if I go with your recommendation I have no idea where that leaves things.

>>and is AMOS now capable of NTSC operation without lots of trouble ?
>NTSC works fine on AMOS Pro v1 and newer and works fine on AMOS Creator
>as of, what, v1.31 and newer? I can not even remember what problems
>there were with AMOS Creator and NTSC.

Well in the review from your web page, it pretty well said AMOS was crap on
NTSC, and only designed for PAL, and a floppy drive.

>While I am here, if you have an AMOS web page you should register it
>with Amiga Web Directory. It may help bring traffic and new users.

What I have is a 'Commodore page' Everything Commodore.

http://ddi.digital.net/~cbminfo

Mostly just C=64 and 128 now. I'm still real new to Amiga.


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		Message #72 of 8173

Re: Amos Info

Mon Jun 15, 1998 6:57 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


>This is all good, I suppose, but... What is what ? What do you need
with
>amos to write a basic program ?
An Amiga. I would recommend an Amigas 1200 with a harddrive. It works
on almost all systems. If you want to compile your program you need the
compiler. AMOS Creator is the original and still works well. AMOS Pro
is the latest and greatest and seems to have the most support for
extensions (new commands). Easy AMOS is a beginner's version and never
really went very far. So, I would go for AMOS Pro.

>I don't know why but a lot of people leave out the details that make
>everything they've said pretty well useless ie: assuming that who
they're
I guess my mind reading skills are lacking today. You asked what was
the version, who is selling it and for what price and I answered. Ask
some more detailed questions and someone will answer.

You do not need line numbers in AMOS (when I say AMOS I mean any
flavor). It is a BASIC language so if you know BASIC you are pretty
much ready for it. It has extra commands for special things (sprites,
bobs, music, sound, etc.) that are unique to AMOS. It supports
functions and Procedures. You can add assembly code, too. It can do a
lot of things. Take a look at some of the programs on AmiNet that
include source code. If you do not have AMOS I am sure we can convert
the code to ASCII so you can read it. Just let someone know.

>Well in the review from your web page, it pretty well said AMOS was
crap on
>NTSC, and only designed for PAL, and a floppy drive.
I don't have a web page with anything about AMOS.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)


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		Message #73 of 8173

Re: Amos Info

Mon Jun 15, 1998 8:37 pm
robert waugh <cbminfo@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


--- snip ---
>>I don't know why but a lot of people leave out the details that make
>>everything they've said pretty well useless ie: assuming that who

>I guess my mind reading skills are lacking today. You asked what was
>the version, who is selling it and for what price and I answered. Ask
>some more detailed questions and someone will answer.
Thanks

--- snip ---
>>Well in the review from your web page, it pretty well said AMOS was
>crap on NTSC, and only designed for PAL, and a floppy drive.
>I don't have a web page with anything about AMOS.

Hmmm.. I coulda sworn you were one and the same for the amiga reviews page.
Ok...Yup got you confused with Barrett..

Going by that review (if the amiga ever gets back off the ground, it
probably wouldn't hurt if someone wrote a better review) it says AMOS is
pretty well worthless. And the other reviews Amos Professional this one is
a mini-review, doesn't say a lot.

Amos PD-CD
There is a party of dedicated AMOS users, however, that
are looking for the rights to obtain the source code and continue providing
free PD upgrades.

Any idea what the status of the above statement is all about ? That came
from the Amos PD-CD review.

Oh the review that says the worst is the AMOS review.. It talks
specifically about The Creator 1.2.


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	Message #74 of 8173

Fade + Flash + Stuff

Mon Jun 15, 1998 8:12 pm
Phil Price <cb.price@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>


Hello ,

I'm doing a disk mag for my mate and I , and I have a few questions to ask ,

o. I'm wondering how do I make the screen Suddenly Flah White then fade
back to how the screen was ?

o. How Do I fade a PackedScreen (ABK) in ?

o. How do I get rid of the Amos,'cli' thing whilst I swap scrrens and upack
stuff ,and when the program starts ?!

o. I have the 'typewriter' produce I'm wondering how I can change the font
it, uses to one I like ? Forn Fonts:

Thnx alot
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	Message #75 of 8173

Re: AWeb & Amiga Web Directory

Tue Nov 25, 1997 3:33 pm
Peter Cahill <cahill4@xxx.xxx>


On 15-Jun-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
>From: "Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@...>

Hi!

>I was wondering if anyone uses AWeb and has problems viewing the
>subscribe URL (http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/amos-list)?
>If you want to view past messages, you can go to
>http://www.onelist.com/archives.cgi/amos-list and take a look. I will
>also be uploading them monthly to Aminet as usual.

>Also, now if you search on the Amiga Web Directory
>(http://www.cucug.org/amiga.html) for AMOS, it will bring up the
>subscription URL for the mailing list. This should help bring AMOS back
>into the spotlight some.

>Anyone upgraded their A1200 to OS3.1? What exactly does it involve, is
>it worth it and does it affect AMOS?

I use 3.0 and AWEB 3.0b, I subscribed to this list with aweb, with
no probs and the page looked fine. I didnt check with aweb 2.0 but
Ive used it before and it displays a lot of pages wrong.


>Thanks.

np..

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		Message #76 of 8173

Re: Amos Info

Mon Jun 15, 1998 11:50 pm
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>


On 15-Jun-98, robert waugh wrote:
>Can someone say just which is the current version of AMOS,

2.0 is the latest.

>and is AMOS now capable of NTSC operation
>without lots of trouble ?

No fixing necessary.

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
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| / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II |
| / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / |
| / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS |
| /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 |
| Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 |
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	Message #77 of 8173

Re: See through Screens - an example

Tue Jun 16, 1998 1:22 am
Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hi All,


This is a routine I wrote as an example of using transparent screens
in AMOS, and it shows how to stop two important bugs in amos' handeling
of them.


This is just a demo of a cool pattern effect, but you could use
them as anything.


See ya.

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	Message #78 of 8173

Re: Fade + Flash + Stuff

Tue Jun 16, 1998 1:23 am
Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hi All,


I have just written an example of how to do that flash fading
stuff and the screen hiding stuff as well.



Enjoy ;)

--

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	Message #79 of 8173

Re: AMOS Copyright Notice

Tue Jun 16, 1998 12:33 pm
John Bintz <uv334@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>


On Mon, 15 Jun 1998 Declan_Gorman@... wrote:

> I was reading through the AMOS Pro compiler manual last night and am
> wondering if the section about using the AMOS sprite still needs
> stands?
> As my program uses the GUI extension and therefore nowhere to place
> the AMOS sprite, would it be enough to say in my documentation that
> the program was coded with AMOS Pro?

A mere mention is probably fine. Besides, the AMOS sprite looks cheesy,
no matter how you use it.

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	Message #80 of 8173

Tue Jun 16, 1998 5:43 pm
"Stephen Lebed" <slebed@xx.xxxxxx.xxxx>

How about a new language?


I've been a fan of Amos Pro for a long time. I've been on the Amos mailing
list for as long as I can remember. Everyone on this list has their own
reasons for staying with this language for as long as they have. I stay
because of its ease of use.

We know that the language is been looked at for a possible rewrite, but with
all the legal hassles and strange coding it can take a very long time to see
something come out of it.

What about the idea of us creating our own programming language? I'm not
asking this lightly, I know what it would take to even begin a project like
this. We could tailor the language the way we need it.

For example:

Making it OS complient
Have the code compiled for specific processors
Add commands that are core to the software for speed


Its everything we've been wanting in an upgrade to Amos, and it may take as
long a time to write our own from scratch than to rewrite AmosPro. But, the
code would be ours. We could port it to any platform we chose to. I'm not
sure if there is any money to be made doing this, other than the fact that
we might make money from the resulting software we would write using it.

Let have a serious discussion on the matter...

Stephen Lebed
Visual Effects Supervisor
"Honey, I Shrunk the Kids: TV Show"
Slebed@...


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	Message #81 of 8173

Re: Fade + Flash + Stuff

Tue Nov 25, 1997 3:52 pm
Peter Cahill <cahill4@xxx.xxx>


On 16-Jun-98, Phil Price wrote:
>From: Phil Price <cb.price@...>

>Hello ,

Hi Phil,

>I'm doing a disk mag for my mate and I , and I have a few questions to ask ,

Is it for converse ?

> o. I'm wondering how do I make the screen Suddenly Flah White then fade
>back to how the screen was ?

use the Flash command, I dont remember exacly how to use it
its something like 'Flash <colourNo>,(RGB,speed)' , check the AMOS
Pro help or your manual.

> o. How Do I fade a PackedScreen (ABK) in ?

use this code:

Dim AMT(32)

screen open 0,320,256,32,lowres
screen open 1,10,10,32,lowres
screen hide 1
screen hide 0
unpack <bnk> to 0

'store palette
For X=1 To 32
AMT(X)=Colour(X)
Next X

'change the palette to black
Palette 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

screen 1
for x=1 to 32
Colour X,AMT(X)
next x

screen show 0
screen 0

fade <speed> to 1

(end)
There might be a easier way, and I havnt tested this. If you need some
comments or more info in the code just ask !

> o. How do I get rid of the Amos,'cli' thing whilst I swap scrrens and upack
> stuff ,and when the program starts ?!

There is a option in the compiler settings to remove it from compiled code.

> o. I have the 'typewriter' produce I'm wondering how I can change the font
>it, uses to one I like ? Forn Fonts:
>

Have a look at the fonts section of your manual, I forget coz I havnt
used any font things for years.

>Thnx alot

np..

cya,
--
\ \ | /
\ \ _\ __/ /
\ | \ / __/
\ \/ / /
\_ \__ Жооооооооо /^^\ (^^) | /
\__ \ LPPPPPPPO {ZЏЏC} (TTЏЏO)|/ pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE
\_\ LP Pа {Z C} (TO O) gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES
LP PO {Z C} (O o aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG
LP PO {Z O} (O sUPPORT aS wELL aS gIVING
LOOOOo/ {AXXXXXXOO} (O \_ aMOS mUCH fASTER bOBS,
/|LI {AXXXXXXXXX!} (O o| \ sPRITES aND aLL tHE
/ /OO {/ !} (O C) \ \ oTHER kEWL THINGS lIKE
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	Message #82 of 8173

TextWrite-

Tue Jun 16, 1998 8:58 pm
Phil Price <cb.price@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>


Hello Amos Dudes,

Well Thnx for your help on The Flash thing, I managed to do what I whated
after hav'in a peek at that code :) Well I'm wondering I few more qestions
now,

I use a TypeWriter Produce in my program, But I get the screen to flash,
When a Button is cliked (Setzone), But I have to Swap the screens For the
text to dissapear from the old Screen , Is there away that I can Make the
text apear after The flash, And dissaper in the middle of the falsh , so you
don't notice, :)

Here's some of my code,

Screen Open 1,50,50,16,Lowres : Cls 0 : Flash Off : Curs Off
Screen Open 2,640,256,16,Hires : Cls 0 : Flash Off : Curs Off
Screen Open 3,640,256,16,Hires : Cls 0 : Flash Off : Curs Off
Show
Unpack 9 To 0
Unpack 9 To 1
Flash Off
SETBOXES:
Wait Vbl : Limit Mouse
Reserve Zone 11
Rem Main boxes
Set Zone 1,30,60 To 120,110
Set Zone 2,130,60 To 220,110
Set Zone 3,230,60 To 320,110
Set Zone 4,30,120 To 120,170
Set Zone 5,130,120 To 220,170
Set Zone 6,230,120 To 320,170
Rem info
Set Zone 7,380,60 To 580,170
Rem quit
Set Zone 8,0,0 To 10,10
Rem Greet
Set Zone 9,40,210 To 150,230
Rem Credz
Set Zone 10,170,210 To 280,230
Rem Info
Set Zone 11,300,210 To 420,230

_IF:
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=1 Then FLAG=7 : Gosub _A
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=2 Then FLAG=8 : Gosub _B
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=3 Then FLAG=9 : Gosub _C
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=4 Then FLAG=10 : Gosub _D
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=5 Then FLAG=11 : Gosub _E
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=6 Then FLAG=12 : Gosub _F
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=7 Then FLAG=13 : Gosub _G
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=8 Then FLAG=14 : Gosub _QUIT
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=9 Then FLAG=15 : Gosub _I
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=10 Then FLAG=16 : Gosub _INFO
If Mouse Key and Mouse Zone=11 Then FLAG=17 : Gosub _QUIT
Goto _IF
_A:

'Load mod'

Wait 1
Unpack 9 To 2
Screen To Front 2
Fade
1,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF,$FFF
Wait 18
Fade 2 To 0

Wait 1
TYPEWRITER["Now Playing:",375,70,15,FFF,1,0]
TYPEWRITER["Alienatar",375,80,15,FFF,1,0]
TYPEWRITER["Text",375,90,15,FFF,1,0]
TYPEWRITER["Text",375,100,15,FFF,1,0]
TYPEWRITER["Text",375,110,15,FFF,1,0]
TYPEWRITER["Text",375,120,15,FFF,1,0]

Blah Blah , ect.ect.


Procedure OUTLINE[T$,X,Y,C1,C2]
Procedure TYPEWRITER[M$,TX,TY,O1,O2,P,T]

Thnx alot
--
[.............--==.Phil.Price.==--..............]
o-----------------------------------------------o
| ----8@ Freak Design @8---- |
| ----8@ Freak Development @8---- |
o-----------------------------------------------o


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		Message #83 of 8173

Re: AMOS Source Code

Tue Jun 16, 1998 7:22 pm
* de Jong * <joopdejong@xxx.xxx>


On 14-jun-98 Russell Wild wrote:

>From: "Russell Wild" <casarojo@...>

>Hello, can anyone give me a web/mail address for the group of developers who
>have the AMOS Pro? Also, does anyone know exactly how AMOS Pro is written -
>Assembler or a language such as C or C++?

AMOSPro is written in Assembler. I don't renember which compiler was used.

The official AMOSPro homepage is www.seta.it/amos
(you can get updates there and some extensions)

>Thanks,
>Russell


Mark de Jong - Member of Team*Amiga*&Team*AMOS*
A4000/030/882/16fast/2chip


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	Message #84 of 8173

Mouse Col's

Tue Jun 16, 1998 10:09 pm
Phil Price <cb.price@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>


Hello ,

Err I manged to set up my own Mouse :) But How do I set the cols of it to ,
the cols I Have drawn it with not the AMOS Defualt Organe/Yellow Cols ?!?

Thnx alot
--
[.............--==.Phil.Price.==--..............]
o-----------------------------------------------o


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	Message #85 of 8173

Re: Mouse Col's

Wed Jun 17, 1998 4:25 am
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>


On 16-Jun-98, Phil Price wrote:
>Err I manged to set up my own Mouse :) But How do I set the cols of it to ,
>the cols I Have drawn it with not the AMOS Defualt Organe/Yellow Cols ?!?

The bob you make (or bobs) must be lores 4 colour, or it won't work. The
colours are:

colour 0 - transparent, never mind
colour 1 - highlight, brightest colour, "Colour 17,$AAA"
colour 2 - body, medium colour, "Colour 18,$999"
colour 3 - shadow, darkest colour, "Colour 19,$555"

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
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	Message #86 of 8173

Amos & Arexx

Wed Jun 17, 1998 3:15 pm
Declan_Gorman@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>


I am trying to incorporate Arexx into my program and have a question.

The Amos Pro manual has a few pages on Arexx but there doesn't seem to
be a command for sending a message to an Arexx port. It does have a
command to receive an Arexx message, which is not want I want to do
within my program.

Here is the scenario......

I want my program to pass information to another program and this is
how I envisaged it happening.

My program --> Arexx Script --> Another program

Is this the correct way to go about it or should I read up more on
Arexx?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Declan.


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	Message #87 of 8173

Re: Amos & Arexx

Wed Jun 17, 1998 6:29 pm
"Rune J. Keller" <keller@xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>


On 17-Jun-98, Declan_Gorman@... wrote:
> I want my program to pass information to another program and this is
> how I envisaged it happening.
>
> My program --> Arexx Script --> Another program
>
> Is this the correct way to go about it or should I read up more on
> Arexx?

It works perfect. I have done a quite large program this way myself, so if you
want any information let me know.

The command you're looking for is 'Arexx Answer' The AMOS Source could be
something like:

Arexx Wait

If Arexx = 2
Arexx Answer 0,ANSWER$
Endif

--
rune j. keller - sporuplundsvej 105 - dk-8472 sporup - keller@...
- gimme some sugar, baby!


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		Message #88 of 8173

Re: Amos & Arexx

Wed Jun 17, 1998 11:46 am
Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>


Hello Declan_Gorman@...

On 17-Jun-98, Declan_Gorman@... smashed the keyboard with:
> I am trying to incorporate Arexx into my program and have a question.
>
> The Amos Pro manual has a few pages on Arexx but there doesn't seem to
> be a command for sending a message to an Arexx port. It does have a
> command to receive an Arexx message, which is not want I want to do
> within my program.

You should consider to use the LDos extension for the Arexx, it's much more
powerfull than the build-in Arexx. LDos can be found on AmiNET or on my
homepages... ;-)

--
A load of kind regards from
________________________ ________________________
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\_/ /\_/ /\__/ / /\__/ / / \ \ \____/\ \__/\ \_/\ \_/ SOFTWARE
/ / // / / / / ______/ / \ \ \ \ \ ____ \\ \ \ AMOS
/ / // /_/_/ / /\_____\/ \ \ \___\_\ \__/\ \\ \ \ AQUA
/_/ //_______/_/ / \ \_______\_\ \ \_\\ \_\ STAR TREK TNG
\_\/ \_______\_\/ \/_______/_/ \/_/ \/_/
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.radiolink.net/aqua'
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		Message #89 of 8173

Re: Mouse Col's

Wed Jun 17, 1998 11:48 am
Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>


Hello Mr.

On 17-Jun-98, Mr. Giark To You smashed the keyboard with:
> From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@...>
>
> On 16-Jun-98, Phil Price wrote:
>> Err I manged to set up my own Mouse :) But How do I set the cols of it to ,
>> the cols I Have drawn it with not the AMOS Defualt Organe/Yellow Cols ?!?
>
> The bob you make (or bobs) must be lores 4 colour, or it won't work. The
> colours are:
>
> colour 0 - transparent, never mind
> colour 1 - highlight, brightest colour, "Colour 17,$AAA"
> colour 2 - body, medium colour, "Colour 18,$999"
> colour 3 - shadow, darkest colour, "Colour 19,$555"

Just to make sure everyone has got this:
You can put new values in registers 17,18 and 19 to change the colours of
the mouse to your needs, this both goest for the default mouse and the
one you define ;-)
--
A load of kind regards from
________________________ ________________________
/__ ___/ ____ / ____ /\ /\ _____\ ____ \___ __\ AMIGA
\_/ /\_/ /\__/ / /\__/ / / \ \ \____/\ \__/\ \_/\ \_/ SOFTWARE
/ / // / / / / ______/ / \ \ \ \ \ ____ \\ \ \ AMOS
/ / // /_/_/ / /\_____\/ \ \ \___\_\ \__/\ \\ \ \ AQUA
/_/ //_______/_/ / \ \_______\_\ \ \_\\ \_\ STAR TREK TNG
\_\/ \_______\_\/ \/_______/_/ \/_/ \/_/
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Aka. Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@...> <top_cat@...>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Main Page: 'http://home8.inet.tele.dk/top_cat/'
The AQUA Zone: 'http://www.radiolink.net/aqua'
The Cosmic String: 'http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/pratchett/166/'
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	Message #90 of 8173

New AMOS

Wed Jun 17, 1998 8:14 pm
"Russell Wild" <casarojo@xxxxx.xxx.xxxx>


Hello,
You've come up with exactly the same idea as I had recently! I wanted
originally to do a Windows 9x port of AMOS, but now that I have found out
that the source code is 100% assembler it looks doubtful.
I am not a professional programmer (yet), but I am very proficient in
Windows C++, particularly MFC. I already have _some_ code which could
contribute to such a project, for example expression resolving routines,
advanced string handling routines etc.

I would love to have a go at this project, especially now I know others are
interested. Let's start discussions! Perhaps we should first think up a
title for the project so that we can separate it from the straight AMOS
messages. How about AMOS-RPL (AMOS Research Programming Language)?

Some ideas I came up with are:
1) NO emulation. This is what ruins a lot of systems so if the Amiga can do
something the PC can't, no attempt should be made to emulate it unless it
can be done so seamlessly.

2) The basic OS commands such as (?) OpenWindow, AddGadget etc should have
the same parameters on both versions so that code doesn't need to be
altered.

I hope we can do this, and I am sure we can if we all try a little,
Here from you soon,
Russell


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	Message #91 of 8173

Font making?

Thu Jun 18, 1998 12:40 am
<erico@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>


Hi there listers

Need some little help here , I need a very small font for my game ,
no words needed , just the numbers.
So I wonder if there is such a prog to make fonts
Is there so on the aminet?
Does anybody have a free little font to share?

Tanks
------------------------------------------------------------
You got this from Jack Burton
Email: erico@... (no www on ad)
Barca Furada Url: Changing , hang on

"You know what Jack Burton always say in a situation
like this?..."
------------------------------------------------------------


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	Message #92 of 8173

Sorry

Mon Jun 15, 1998 9:25 pm
<erico@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx> 


by the way , my email is
erico@...
or
jack_burton@...

the one that apears with www in it I have no idea why it is there
------------------------------------------------------------
Ahoy! You got this from Erico Monteiro
Email: erico@...
Work Url: www.tecnopro.com.br
Barca Furada Url: www.angelfire.com/ak/gamecreation

"If you can't find me or encounter any problem...
...call the president"
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		Message #93 of 8173

Re: assign directory

Thu Jun 18, 1998 12:45 am
<erico@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>


> From: Andy Kellett <mushypd@...>
>
> Hello erico@...
>
> > From: erico@...
>
> > hello there
>
> > I suspect this subject have already been discussed but anyways...
> > ... how do I make my amos program auto assign its directory on run?
>
> use:
>
> assign "Value:" to Dir$
>
> Dir$ will always be the current directory you loaded with unless you
> changed it beforehand.
>
> Regards

Hey Kel

I believe this is for amos pro I guess
My amos is the old one (1.3 I guess)
didn't work , I searches through the manual for similar ones but
could not find such , although there is the dir$ one
Have any ideas?
tanks
------------------------------------------------------------
You got this from Jack Burton
Email: erico@... (no www on ad)
Barca Furada Url: Changing , hang on

"You know what Jack Burton always say in a situation
like this?..."
------------------------------------------------------------


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	Message #94 of 8173

Re: assign directory

Thu Jun 18, 1998 10:45 am
Andy H <geosync@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>


Hey Jack,

How's Wang?

There a program on the Amos1.36 called "execute.amos". To use it go to
the bottom of the proggie you want to use it in, click so the cursor is
at the end of the program, select MERGE and load the file
'execute.amos'.

To use it anywhere in the program type...
{assuming the AmigaDOS command "assign" is at "sys:c/")

EXEC["sys:c/assign <new device> <desired directory>"]
If Param
Print "Command sucessful!"
Else
Print "AmigaDOS command failed"
Endif

Hope this works :)
Andy H
> > > I suspect this subject have already been discussed but anyways...
> > > ... how do I make my amos program auto assign its directory on run?
> >
> > use:
> >
> > assign "Value:" to Dir$
> >
> > Dir$ will always be the current directory you loaded with unless you
> > changed it beforehand.
> >
> > Regards
>
> Hey Kel
>
> I believe this is for amos pro I guess
> My amos is the old one (1.3 I guess)
> didn't work , I searches through the manual for similar ones but
> could not find such , although there is the dir$ one
> Have any ideas?
> tanks


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	Message #95 of 8173

SV: [amos-list] Re: assign directory

Thu Jun 18, 1998 4:43 pm
<Magnus.Sjoberg@xxxx.xx>


> Andy H <geosync@...> wrote:
>
>There a program on the Amos1.36 called "execute.amos". To use
it go to
>the bottom of the proggie you want to use it in, click so the
cursor is
>at the end of the program, select MERGE and load the file
>'execute.amos'.

>To use it anywhere in the program type...
>{assuming the AmigaDOS command "assign" is at "sys:c/")

>EXEC["sys:c/assign <new device> <desired directory>"]
> If Param
> Print "Command sucessful!"
> Else
> Print "AmigaDOS command failed"
> Endif

By experience I know that using "Sys:c/Assign" isn't reliable.
I would suggest you to use "C:Assign" instead.
The assign should refer to PROGDIR: since that's where your
program was started. I'm not sure if PROGDIR: exists on KS 1.x
though.

Magnus


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	Message #96 of 8173

Bobs, colours and backgrounds...

Fri Jun 19, 1998 12:04 am
Zangiacomi Sylvain <szan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>


Hello All,

I've got a problem with bob's colours. I'm trying to create
a car game, like Overdrive (is it possible ? :-).

My background picture is 32 colours - OK no problem -
My bobs (the cars) use only the 8 first one. So, to save chip
mem, I made my bob bank with 8 colours for the bobs.

BUT... When I put these bobs on the background, their colours
change when they are displayed on a zone which contains the 32-8
other colours.
This problem doesn't appear, of course when I save my bob bank
with 32 colours for bobs.

The question is simple : is there any way to keep a 8 colours
bob bank with a more than 8 colours background ? or is it necessary
to add the 32-8 last colours in the bank to avoid colour interferences ?

Maybe, one of you has already met the problem, so ...

Tao, Sylvain


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		Message #97 of 8173

Re: Bobs, colours and backgrounds...

Fri Jun 19, 1998 4:03 am
Bernie Noel <bnoel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>


Hi,

>My background picture is 32 colours - OK no problem -
>My bobs (the cars) use only the 8 first one. So, to save chip
>mem, I made my bob bank with 8 colours for the bobs.

> BUT... When I put these bobs on the background, their colours
>change when they are displayed on a zone which contains the 32-8
>other colours.

Your bob has 3 bitplanes, your screen has 5. When your bob hits the screen,
it's going to replace the 3 first bitplanes and leave the other 2 unchanged.
That's why your bob's colours are altered (the screen pixels haven't been
completely replaced by the bob's pixels, only their lower layers have).

So you've got to find a way to empty the last 2 bitplanes of the screen, at
the bob's location. To the best of my knowledge, that's no simple task. 'Set
Bob' could have worked, but unfortunately it doesn't. I guess you have to Doke
to Phybase(3) and Phybase(4) or something. Anyway it's going to be horribly
complicated and slow.

I think there are but 2 solutions:

1) Arrange to display your 8-colour bobs only on background drawn using the
first 8 colours of the screen.

2) Draw your bobs in 32 colours... they'll be prettier :-)


Oh by the way, I'm new here, so perhaps I should introduce myself. I'm a
French AmosPro coder, and I live in Paris. I've made several games, the last
of which is to be 'unveiled' very soon. It's gonna be a huge shock to you, so
brace yourselves :-)

Greetings to all,

Bernie


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	Message #98 of 8173

mSQL Library?

Fri Jun 19, 1998 3:08 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


I was wondering if anyone has attempted to use the mSQL.library with
AMOS? I am interested in accessing databases (either locally or
remotely via TCP/IP and SQL) such as MS Access, SQL Server, etc. from my
Amiga.

Thanks.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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		Message #99 of 8173

New AMOS

Sat Jun 20, 1998 4:02 pm
Lazar Zoltan <lazi@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>


The pc has a lot of programming environment. Why should you want to make a
new one?
The Amiga is who _wants_ your coding talent!

By
--
Lсzi
lazi@...


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		Message #100 of 8173

Amos & Arexx

Sat Jun 20, 1998 4:02 pm
Lazar Zoltan <lazi@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>


> I want my program to pass information to another program and this is
> how I envisaged it happening.
>
> My program --> Arexx Script --> Another program

You can generate the script to a temporary file, and then use the
Exec "rx "+scriptfilename$ command.

Lсzi
lazi@...


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	Message #101 of 8173

Re: assign directory

Sat Jun 20, 1998 4:02 pm
Lazar Zoltan <lazi@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>


> I suspect this subject have already been discussed but anyways...
> ... how do I make my amos program auto assign its directory on run?
>
On 1.3. you can use directly the Dos.library/AssignLate function with the
=Doscall() Amos function.

NAME
AssignLate -- Creates an assignment to a specified path later (V36)

SYNOPSIS
success = AssignLate(name,path)
D0 D1 D2

BOOL AssignLate(STRPTR,STRPTR)

FUNCTION
Sets up a assignment that is expanded upon the FIRST reference to
the
name. The path (a string) would be attached to the node. When
the name is referenced (Open("FOO:xyzzy"...), the string will be
used
to determine where to set the assign to, and if the directory can
be
locked, the assign will act from that point on as if it had been
created by AssignLock().

A major advantage is assigning things to unmounted volumes, which
will be requested upon access (useful in startup sequences).

INPUTS
name - Name of device to be assigned (without trailing ':')
path - Name of late assignment to be resolved on the first
reference.

RESULT
success - Success/failure indicator of the operation

By
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Lсzi
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		Message #102 of 8173

Font making?

Sat Jun 20, 1998 4:02 pm
Lazar Zoltan <lazi@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>


> Does anybody have a free little font to share?

How points large exactly your needs, and what style?

By
--
Lсzi
lazi@...


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	Message #103 of 8173

HELP: Bad Compiler disks!

Sun Jun 21, 1998 12:32 pm
AoD <mcox@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx>


I was re-installing AMOSPro onto my new hard disk when I discovered that my
compiler disks (both the compiler & updater) were bad! Would anyone be
kind enough to LHA/DMS them and email them to me? I am sure everyone knows
that I actually own a copy but if no one feels comfortable with that, I
will understand.

Thanks!

Michael
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	Message #104 of 8173

Amos AGA extension

Sun Jun 21, 1998 2:09 pm
Dan Kovacs <dkovacs@xxxxxxxx.xxx>


Does anyone here know anything about the AGA extension for Amos? Is it
worth getting?

Dan


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	Message #105 of 8173

Where can you buy AMOS (best buy)

Sun Jun 21, 1998 3:16 pm
robert waugh <cbminfo@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


Just looking for the best buy. I assume Amos pro would be the choice getting
started with Amiga basic this late in amigas history. Can someone provide
places to get it ? Oh yeah only info I have on the editor is a demo I found on
Aminet set 1D. By any chance does Amos now work with NTSC, with the entire
screen in view ? Or must we suffer using PAL on NTSC machines ?


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	Message #106 of 8173

Re: Font making?

Sun Jun 21, 1998 4:06 am
Peter Cahill <cahill4@xxx.xxx>


On 18-Jun-98, erico@... wrote:

>Hi there listers

Hi!

>Need some little help here , I need a very small font for my game ,
>no words needed , just the numbers.
>So I wonder if there is such a prog to make fonts
>Is there so on the aminet?
>Does anybody have a free little font to share?

Yes, the IS a font maker !
And its not on aminet, it COMES WITH AMOS ;P
Its in AMOSPro_Accesories:8x8fonteditor.amos (or simialar)

cya
--
\ \ | /
\ \ _\ __/ /
\ | \ / __/
\ \/ / /
\_ \__ Жооооооооо /^^\ (^^) | /
\__ \ LPPPPPPPO {ZЏЏC} (TTЏЏO)|/ pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE
\_\ LP Pа {Z C} (TO O) gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES
LP PO {Z C} (O o aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG
LP PO {Z O} (O sUPPORT aS wELL aS gIVING
LOOOOo/ {AXXXXXXOO} (O \_ aMOS mUCH fASTER bOBS,
/|LI {AXXXXXXXXX!} (O o| \ sPRITES aND aLL tHE
/ /OO {/ !} (O C) \ \ oTHER kEWL THINGS lIKE
/ Џ / |/ {/ !} (TO C) | \__cDDA aND uNCRACKABLE
/Џ/ЏЏ/ C/ /A} (ППП) \ \ mEMORY bANK
/ / \ | eNCYRPTION tHAT
Џ / cAHILL4@... \ \ aNY cODER cOULD
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	Message #107 of 8173

Re: HELP: Bad Compiler disks!

Sun Jun 21, 1998 4:19 pm
Christopher Kossa <abattoir@xxxxx.xxxx>


On 21-Jun-98, you were yapping about...
> From: AoD <mcox@...>
>
> I was re-installing AMOSPro onto my new hard disk when I discovered that
>my compiler disks (both the compiler & updater) were bad! Would anyone be
> kind enough to LHA/DMS them and email them to me? I am sure everyone
>knows that I actually own a copy but if no one feels comfortable with that,
>I will understand.

I'll do it. But should I trust you?? :P How do we know you're realy
Michael?

...Chris K
============================================================================


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		Message #108 of 8173

Re: Amos AGA extension

Mon Jun 22, 1998 12:36 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>

I have it (I bought it from F1 Software in UK). I do not think it is
worth getting as it does not have much capabilities. I found I was
unable to do much, if anything, with it.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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		Message #109 of 8173

Re: Where can you buy AMOS (best buy)

Mon Jun 22, 1998 12:41 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>

Buy AMOS Pro and buy AMOS Pro Compiler. Contact the guy at Turtle
Lightning Amiga Software (turtleguy@...) as he said he had a
used copy of AMOS Pro for $17.95. You can buy the compiler from Mushy
PD (http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk) for $23.50. Or, post to
comp.sys.amiga.marketplace and programmer asking to buy someone's used
copy of either.

AMOS Pro works fine on PAL and NTSC. No problems at all.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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	Message #110 of 8173

TCP/IP / HTTP Interface

Mon Jun 22, 1998 7:05 pm
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>

I was wondering if anyone has experience in writing a TCP/IP program in
AMOS? I'd like to connect to a webserver and send it an HTTP command
(like connect to yahoo.com and do a search) and get the results back. I
think the GUI extension allows me to open a TCP: port? Is that stack
(AmiTCP or Miami) dependant? Anyone trying this?

Thanks.

> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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	Message #111 of 8173

Accessing CD drive?

Mon Jun 22, 1998 10:41 pm
AoD <mcox@xxxxxx.xxxxx.xxxx>

I am thinking of writing a CD player in AMOS (done it on a PC so I figure I
can do it on the Amiga). Anyone have an idea as to determine what drive is
the CD? I wonder if AsimCDFS or AmiCDFS have like an API or something
where you can ask it how many tracks, track length in MM:SS:FF, etc.

Anyone ever done this before?

Thanks.

Michael
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		Message #112 of 8173

Re: Accessing CD drive?

Mon Jun 22, 1998 11:58 pm
Dan Kovacs <dkovacs@xxxxxxxx.xxx>


AoD wrote:
>
> From: AoD <mcox@...>
>
> I am thinking of writing a CD player in AMOS (done it on a PC so I figure I
> can do it on the Amiga). Anyone have an idea as to determine what drive is
> the CD? I wonder if AsimCDFS or AmiCDFS have like an API or something
> where you can ask it how many tracks, track length in MM:SS:FF, etc.
>
> Anyone ever done this before?
>
Done it in C with the SCSI.DEVICE, not sure how you would do it in
AMOS. One
thing I know about ASIM-CDFS is that it gives you the tracks in a
variety of
formats (AIFF, Ect ...) so you could play them as a big sample (buffered
off
the disk). Done that with IFF samples on the harddisk.


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	Message #113 of 8173

Re: Font making?

Tue Jun 23, 1998 12:10 am
<erico@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>


Hi Laz

Like we said...
> > Does anybody have a free little font to share?
>
> How points large exactly your needs, and what style?

The smallest readable possible , I would say some 5 pixels tall.
Simple style , it is supposed to go on the lower panel for counting
the number of flys you ate.

Thanks , see ya!
------------------------------------------------------------
You got this from Jack Burton
Email: erico@... (no www on ad)
Barca Furada Url: Changing , hang on

"You know what Jack Burton always say in a situation
like this?..."
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	Message #114 of 8173

Re: Font making?

Tue Jun 23, 1998 12:14 am
<erico@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>


Hi Peter

Like we said...


> >Need some little help here , I need a very small font for my game ,
> >no words needed , just the numbers.
> >So I wonder if there is such a prog to make fonts
> >Is there so on the aminet?
> >Does anybody have a free little font to share?
>
> Yes, the IS a font maker !
> And its not on aminet, it COMES WITH AMOS ;P
> Its in AMOSPro_Accesories:8x8fonteditor.amos (or simialar)

Well , I will take a look at my extra disks , but my amos is the old
one not the professional , anyway there might be one somewhere , I
usually only install the sprite grabber , sample bank maker and the
one to convert mod.

Tanks see ya!
------------------------------------------------------------
You got this from Jack Burton
Email: erico@... (no www on ad)
Barca Furada Url: Changing , hang on

"You know what Jack Burton always say in a situation
like this?..."
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		Message #115 of 8173

Accessing CD drive?

Tue Jun 23, 1998 5:39 am
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>


On 22-Jun-98, AoD wrote:
>I am thinking of writing a CD player in AMOS (done it on a PC so I figure I
>can do it on the Amiga).

TGE is supposed to do such things.

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
.----------------------------------------------.
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| / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II |
| / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / |
| / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS |
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| Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 |
| |
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	Message #116 of 8173

HTTP Interface

Tue Jun 23, 1998 5:40 am
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>

On 22-Jun-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
>I was wondering if anyone has experience in writing a TCP/IP program in
>AMOS?

GUI Extension rocks for this sort of thing. I've been putting a lot of things
on hold lately, due to company coming over, but I've got a bot written in amos
for irc and Pietro has a demo of a tcp file search.

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
.----------------------------------------------.
| ______ ______ _____ |
| / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of |
| / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II |
| / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / |
| / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS |
| /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 |
| Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 |
| |
| Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast |
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	Message #117 of 8173

Re: Where can you buy AMOS (best buy)

Tue Jun 23, 1998 12:13 am
robert waugh <cbminfo@xxxxxxx.xxxx 


>Buy AMOS Pro and buy AMOS Pro Compiler. Contact the guy at Turtle
>Lightning Amiga Software (turtleguy@...) as he said he had a
>used copy of AMOS Pro for $17.95. You can buy the compiler from Mushy
>PD (http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk) for $23.50. Or, post to
>comp.sys.amiga.marketplace and programmer asking to buy someone's used
>copy of either.

Just ran across ACE. wasn't even aware this existed. Trying it out right
now. Think I found it when I was just getting started witht he amiga, and
like my kids, if their food wasn't wrapped by a kid with a paper hat,
they'd starve to death. I was in the way that if the program didn't come
with an installer, I couldn't get it running.

Well after almost a year, I have ACE up and running, and it looks pretty
good what with AIDE as the interface.


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	Message #118 of 8173

Files

Wed Jun 24, 1998 12:37 pm
Peter Cahill <cahill4@...>


Hi!

In AMOS is there a way of stopping it outputing the end of line charicter
that 'Print #' outputs ?

ie.
Print # outputs:
$setting=D

when I want it to output:
$setting=D

Also for it to be able to input text without the end of line thing ?


thanks
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\ \ _\ __/ /
\ | \ / __/
\ \/ / /
\_ \__ Жооооооооо /^^\ (^^) | /
\__ \ LPPPPPPPO {ZЏЏC} (TTЏЏO)|/ pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE
\_\ LP Pа {Z C} (TO O) gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES
LP PO {Z C} (O o aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG
LP PO {Z O} (O sUPPORT aS wELL aS gIVING
LOOOOo/ {AXXXXXXOO} (O \_ aMOS mUCH fASTER bOBS,
/|LI {AXXXXXXXXX!} (O o| \ sPRITES aND aLL tHE
/ /OO {/ !} (O C) \ \ oTHER kEWL THINGS lIKE
/ Џ / |/ {/ !} (TO C) | \__cDDA aND uNCRACKABLE
/Џ/ЏЏ/ C/ /A} (ППП) \ \ mEMORY bANK
/ / \ | eNCYRPTION tHAT
Џ / cAHILL4@... \ \ aNY cODER cOULD
/ http://www.iol.ie/~cahill4/peter/index.html \ \ eVER aSK fOR !!
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	Message #119 of 8173

How do I check for bob collisions

Thu Jun 25, 1998 2:54 am
<Deano@xxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx>


How do I check if a bob collides with another bob. I have seen
commands for sprites colliding with bobs but I am controling a bob
with the mouse (ie: Bob 1,xmouse,ymouse,1) and I want to check to see
if it collides with another bob.

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Email Deano@...
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	Message #120 of 8173

Re: HTTP Interface [2]

Tue Jun 23, 1998 7:37 pm
Phil Price <cb.price@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>


Hello Mr.

On 23-Jun-98, you wrote:

> From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@...>
>
> On 22-Jun-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:
>> I was wondering if anyone has experience in writing a TCP/IP program in
>> AMOS?
>
> GUI Extension rocks for this sort of thing. I've been putting a lot of
things
> on hold lately, due to company coming over, but I've got a bot written in
amos
> for irc and Pietro has a demo of a tcp file search.
>

Were Can I get hold of the GUI extension , Aminet, :) It sounds like good
stuff to me. Also Were can I get good tutorials on TCP Ext (Like join on IRC
ports / servers), and get alook at that file serach fing :) Well I hope you
can Help me :)

Regards
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o-----------------------------------------------o
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	Message #121 of 8173

Re: How do I check for bob collisions

Wed Jun 24, 1998 9:32 pm
"Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx>

Easy as pie, use
Bob Col instead of Sprite Col
so whatever the syntax for sprite collisions is
(I'm not sure off the top of my head)
just replace the word sprite with bob.

Thanks,
Scott Matott sXe
 

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		Message #122 of 8173

Re: How do I check for bob collisions

Wed Jun 24, 1998 10:14 pm
Lazar Zoltan <lazi@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>


> How do I check if a bob collides with another bob.

The 186th page of the manual said:
c=BOB COL(n [,s TO e])
The BOB COL function checks bob number n for a collision wwith another bob.
If a collision has been detected, the value returned in c will be set to -1
(true), otherwise it will be loaded with 0 (false).
Normally the command will check for all collision, but you can specify a
collection of bobs to be tested using the optional range parameters s to
e....

By!
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	Message #123 of 8173

HTTP Interface

Thu Jun 25, 1998 2:30 am
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>

On 23-Jun-98, Phil Price wrote:
>Were Can I get hold of the GUI extension , Aminet, :)

Mushroom PD for one.

> Were can I get good tutorials on TCP Ext (Like join on IRC
>ports / servers),

Go to a search engine and look for the IRC RFC

> and get alook at that file serach fing :)

In the GUI extension examples.

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
.----------------------------------------------.
| ______ ______ _____ |
| / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of |
| / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II |
| / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / |
| / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS |
| /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 |
| Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 |
| |
| Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast |
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	Message #124 of 8173

Files

Thu Jun 25, 1998 2:33 am
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>


On 24-Jun-98, Peter Cahill wrote:
>In AMOS is there a way of stopping it outputing the end of line charicter
>that 'Print #' outputs ?

Use Print #1,TEXT$;

>Also for it to be able to input text without the end of line thing ?

Use inkey$ for kbd and get for files.

And where's that Game Extension?!?

Well met and godspeed,
Giark
giark@...
http://www.hicksville.dyn.ml.org/~giark/
.----------------------------------------------.
| ______ ______ _____ |
| / ____/ / __ / / ___ \ Makers of |
| / /__ / /_/ / / / / / SoloTrek II |
| / ___/ / ____ \ / / / / |
| / / / /___/ / / / / / CyberSpace BBS |
| /_/ /_______/ /_/ /_/ (519)579-0072 |
| Fly By Nite Videe-Oh! (519)579-0173 |
| |
| Amiga 1200 030/50MHz 2Mb Chip 32Mb Fast |
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	Message #125 of 8173

GUI Extension

Thu Jun 25, 1998 4:14 am
Peter Cahill <cahill4@...>


Hi,

when converting a .gui file to .abk in
the GUI Extension if I have a 'getfile' gadget, it
wants to put a image over the getfile gadget. (via a .img file)

Is there a way of stopping it from doing this ?

Also for the GUI Paste Bob command, do I NEED to
draw the bob onto a button or something as it wont
draw the image onto a blank space in a GUI window ?

Finally, The Hot Link Converter keeps crashing for me,
when I click on 'Browse' then I pick a .abk file and
it says 'Loading' in the status text gadget and then it crash's
its a 30k gui file before converting to .abk, is this
file to big or something ?

thanks
--
\ \ | /
\ \ _\ __/ /
\ | \ / __/
\ \/ / /
\_ \__ Жооооооооо /^^\ (^^) | /
\__ \ LPPPPPPPO {ZЏЏC} (TTЏЏO)|/ pROUD aUTHOR oF tHE
\_\ LP Pа {Z C} (TO O) gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES
LP PO {Z C} (O o aMOS uLTIMATE aGA/rTG
LP PO {Z O} (O sUPPORT aS wELL aS gIVING
LOOOOo/ {AXXXXXXOO} (O \_ aMOS mUCH fASTER bOBS,
/|LI {AXXXXXXXXX!} (O o| \ sPRITES aND aLL tHE
/ /OO {/ !} (O C) \ \ oTHER kEWL THINGS lIKE
/ Џ / |/ {/ !} (TO C) | \__cDDA aND uNCRACKABLE
/Џ/ЏЏ/ C/ /A} (ППП) \ \ mEMORY bANK
/ / \ | eNCYRPTION tHAT
Џ / cAHILL4@... \ \ aNY cODER cOULD
/ http://www.iol.ie/~cahill4/peter/index.html \ \ eVER aSK fOR !!
/ | \


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	Message #126 of 8173

Re: Files

Thu Jun 25, 1998 8:30 am
Peter Cahill <cahill4@xxx.xxx>


On 25-Jun-98, Mr. Giark To You wrote:
>From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@...>

>On 24-Jun-98, Peter Cahill wrote:
>>In AMOS is there a way of stopping it outputing the end of line charicter
>>that 'Print #' outputs ?

>Use Print #1,TEXT$;

>>Also for it to be able to input text without the end of line thing ?

>Use inkey$ for kbd and get for files.

thanks


>And where's that Game Extension?!?

I'll send out a beta asap, Im having some probs with GMS atm..

\ \ | /
\ \ _\ __/ /
\ | \ / __/
\ \/ / /
\_ \__ Жооооооооо /^^\ (^^) | /
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\_\ LP Pа {Z C} (TO O) gAME eXTENSION wHICH gIVES
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	Message #127 of 8173

Re: TGE

Fri Jun 26, 1998 2:27 am
"Mr. Giark To You" <giark@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxx>


On 25-Jun-98, Peter Cahill wrote:
>>And where's that Game Extension?!?
>I'll send out a beta asap, Im having some probs with GMS atm..

Okay, how about right now?

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	Message #128 of 8173

SV: [amos-list] GUI Extension

Fri Jun 26, 1998 12:18 pm
<Magnus.Sjoberg@...>


> Peter Cahill <cahill4@...> wrote:
>
>when converting a .gui file to .abk in
>the GUI Extension if I have a 'getfile' gadget, it
>wants to put a image over the getfile gadget. (via a .img file)

>Is there a way of stopping it from doing this ?

The getfile gadget isn't supported by the
GUI Extension and thats why it does like that.
I beleve it's mentioned in the docs somewhere.

>Also for the GUI Paste Bob command, do I NEED to
>draw the bob onto a button or something as it wont
>draw the image onto a blank space in a GUI window ?

My guess is that you'll need a big blank button there and
then import an image. I havn't tried that one though.

Magnus


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	Message #129 of 8173

Orange Start Up Screen in Amos Pro

Sat Jun 27, 1998 5:28 am
<Deano@xxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx>


Everytime I compile a program and run it I get a quick flash of that
horrid orange screen just before the program starts. Is there a way of
starting a compiled program without that screen showing?

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	Message #130 of 8173

New AMOS + Compiler

Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:59 pm
"Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@xxxxxx.xxxx>


Firstly a suggestion to the people coding the new AMOS. Because of
all the problems with AMOS now and again I get really annoyed with it
and consider leaving it to code in something else. Knowing that a new
version is being produced is very good for keeping me with it but
when I don't hear anything about it I get a bit disillusioned again.
How about giving us regular progress reports so we know how it is
going and what it will be like?

Secondly... bloody AMOS compiler.
My program Backbone is getting quite large now and all of a sudden
AMOS refuses to compile it (with or without GUI compiler). Usually it
just stops dead 30% of the way through but on the rare occasion when
it does compile it, the program doesn't work. Errors are also
reported where there aren't any. Once it even wrote a 10MB file onto
my Hard Drive, filling it up and then crashing it... then I had to
spend 2 days repairing it.
Does anyone know what can cause AMOS to stop compiling something? It
compiles other programs fine. I have tried the long option but that
doesn't help.
I had to change one of the internal variables in AMOS because some of
my procedures were getting very long. I can't remember what the
variable is called, could this be the problem?

Thanks,
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	Message #131 of 8173

Re: Orange Start Up Screen in Amos Pro

Fri Jun 26, 1998 7:54 pm
Peter Cahill <cahill4@xxx.xxx>


On 27-Jun-98, Deano wrote:
>From: Deano@... (Deano)

Hi!

>Everytime I compile a program and run it I get a quick flash of that
>horrid orange screen just before the program starts. Is there a way of
>starting a compiled program without that screen showing?

Yeah, set 'AMOS to back' to 'yes' in the compiler config

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	Message #132 of 8173

Re: Orange Start Up Screen in Amos Pro

Sat Jun 27, 1998 1:52 am
"Scooter D. Matott sXe" <sdmatott@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx>


Sure is, go to the settings in the compiler and
turn off the "Create Default Screen option"
just make sure your proggie creates it's own
screens, otherwise you'll need to add a
Screen Open command at the start of it.
Thanks,
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	Message #133 of 8173

Re: HTTP Interface [3]

Thu Jun 25, 1998 11:03 pm
Phil Price <cb.price@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>


Hello Mr.

On 25-Jun-98, you wrote:

> From: "Mr. Giark To You" <giark@...>
>
> On 23-Jun-98, Phil Price wrote:
>> Were Can I get hold of the GUI extension , Aminet, :)
>
> Mushroom PD for one.
>
>> Were can I get good tutorials on TCP Ext (Like join on IRC
>> ports / servers),
>
> Go to a search engine and look for the IRC RFC
>
>> and get alook at that file serach fing :)
>
> In the GUI extension examples.

Well I went and got v1.62 from aminet, But I can't get it to werk :( I
follow the steps, I copy AMOSPro_GUI.lib to APSystem then load up amos, Goto
Set Interpreter Then Load my Defualt Config, then Loaded extenstions Slot it
into Slot 24 With 'AMOSPro)GUI.lib , save and quit amos, load it back up and
DOH! Extension Y Not loaded :( HELP .


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	Message #134 of 8173

New Amiga Game - Mummies Playtime.

Sun Jun 28, 1998 1:04 am
<Deano@xxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx>


Go to my Amiga page on my site (url below) to download my latest game.

Er, please!

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		Message #135 of 8173

Re: HTTP Interface [3]

Sun Jun 28, 1998 12:06 am
Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>


Hello Phil

On 25-Jun-98, Phil Price smashed the keyboard with:
>> In the GUI extension examples.
>
> Well I went and got v1.62 from aminet, But I can't get it to werk :( I
> follow the steps, I copy AMOSPro_GUI.lib to APSystem then load up amos, Goto
> Set Interpreter Then Load my Defualt Config, then Loaded extenstions Slot it
> into Slot 24 With 'AMOSPro)GUI.lib , save and quit amos, load it back up and
> DOH! Extension Y Not loaded :( HELP .

The TCP commands was introduced in V1.70.. Get that off Mush's site or the
amos-factory..

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	Message #136 of 8173

Re: TCP/IP / HTTP Interface

Sat Jun 27, 1998 11:11 pm
John Bintz <uv334@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>


I have. Its called WebView. My old version (2.1i)( used TCP:, but its
blocking and synchronous, so I rewrote the BSDSocket procedures and posted
them on Aminet (dev/amos/BSDSocket.amos). They're much better than TCP:.

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	Message #137 of 8173

Re: New AMOS + Compiler

Sun Jun 28, 1998 12:23 am
Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>


Hi All,

>Secondly... bloody AMOS compiler.
>My program Backbone is getting quite large now and all of a sudden
>AMOS refuses to compile it (with or without GUI compiler). Usually it
>just stops dead 30% of the way through but on the rare occasion when
>it does compile it, the program doesn't work. Errors are also
>reported where there aren't any. Once it even wrote a 10MB file onto
>my Hard Drive, filling it up and then crashing it... then I had to
>spend 2 days repairing it.
>Does anyone know what can cause AMOS to stop compiling something? It
>compiles other programs fine. I have tried the long option but that
>doesn't help.
>I had to change one of the internal variables in AMOS because some of
>my procedures were getting very long. I can't remember what the
>variable is called, could this be the problem?

Ok, How many 'Data' lines do you have?

I think that the AMOS Pro Compiler crashes if there is more then
64k of 'Data' held in a program. If that's the problem then you'll
have to use memory banks or somthing to store your data's.

Also, what exactly do you mean by 'internal variable', if its
just a program variable then this won't create a problem.

Finally, have you tried the compiler shell seperatly from amos?
This could sort the problem out.


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	Message #138 of 8173

Re: HTTP Interface [4]

Sun Jun 28, 1998 12:13 pm
Phil Price <cb.price@...>


Hello Jens

On 27-Jun-98, you wrote:

> Hello Phil
>
> The TCP commands was introduced in V1.70.. Get that off Mush's site or the
> amos-factory..

So Were is that ?

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	Message #139 of 8173

Re: HTTP Interface [4]

Sun Jun 28, 1998 5:48 pm
Jens Vang Petersen <top_cat@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>


Hello Phil

On 28-Jun-98, Phil Price smashed the keyboard with:
>> The TCP commands was introduced in V1.70.. Get that off Mush's site or the
>> amos-factory..
>
> So Were is that ?

Mush:
http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/

Amos Factory:
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	Message #140 of 8173

Re: GUI Extension

Sun Jun 28, 1998 7:10 am
Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@xxxxxx.xxx>


Hello Peter

On 25-Giu-98, Peter Cahill wrote: [amos-list] GUI Extension


> Hi,
>
> when converting a .gui file to .abk in
> the GUI Extension if I have a 'getfile' gadget, it
> wants to put a image over the getfile gadget. (via a .img file)
>
> Is there a way of stopping it from doing this ?

No. The gadtools.library (.. and so the GUI Ext) doesn't support the getfile
gadget. (it's a BOOPSI gadget). Just create a button gadget, and attach the
getfile image.


> Also for the GUI Paste Bob command, do I NEED to
> draw the bob onto a button or something as it wont
> draw the image onto a blank space in a GUI window ?

Where is the problem?


> Finally, The Hot Link Converter keeps crashing for me,
> when I click on 'Browse' then I pick a .abk file and
> it says 'Loading' in the status text gadget and then it crash's
> its a 30k gui file before converting to .abk, is this
> file to big or something ?

Uh :( Could you please send me your GUI file.

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	Message #141 of 8173

Re: New AMOS + Compiler

Sun Jun 28, 1998 7:03 am
Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@xxxxxx.xxx>


Hello Alastair

On 26-Giu-98, Alastair Murray wrote: [amos-list] New AMOS + Compiler

> Firstly a suggestion to the people coding the new AMOS. Because of
> all the problems with AMOS now and again I get really annoyed with it
> and consider leaving it to code in something else. Knowing that a new
> version is being produced is very good for keeping me with it but
> when I don't hear anything about it I get a bit disillusioned again.
> How about giving us regular progress reports so we know how it is
> going and what it will be like?


Please be patient, between 2-3 days i'll post a message with ALL the
informations about the present and the future of Amos.


> Secondly... bloody AMOS compiler.
> My program Backbone is getting quite large now and all of a sudden
> AMOS refuses to compile it (with or without GUI compiler). Usually it
> just stops dead 30% of the way through but on the rare occasion when
> it does compile it, the program doesn't work. Errors are also
> reported where there aren't any. Once it even wrote a 10MB file onto
> my Hard Drive, filling it up and then crashing it... then I had to
> spend 2 days repairing it.
> Does anyone know what can cause AMOS to stop compiling something? It
> compiles other programs fine. I have tried the long option but that
> doesn't help.

Load the GUI Compiler Shell program, and modify at line 11:

DEF$=" WB NODEF NOERR TYPE=0"

into:

DEF$=" BIG WB NODEF NOERR TYPE=0"


This should fix your crash problem.


> I had to change one of the internal variables in AMOS because some of
> my procedures were getting very long. I can't remember what the
> variable is called, could this be the problem?

?? Example please...

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	Message #142 of 8173

Mummies Playtime Updated

Mon Jun 29, 1998 3:33 am
<Deano@xxxxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx>


I've updated my game, it's no longer hard drive only, it can now be
run from Floppydisk. Go to my Amiga page to download it.

Pretty Please :)

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	Message #143 of 8173

Re: HTTP Interface [4]

Sun Jun 28, 1998 9:10 pm
Phil Price <cb.price@xxxxxxxx.xx.xxx>


Hello Jens

On 28-Jun-98, you wrote:


> http://www.mushy-pd.demon.co.uk/
>
> Amos Factory:
> http://www.seta.it/amos/

Got It, Still the same Problem, Extension [y] not loaded when it Is, I
followed the install guide, did the same as I said 2 Mails ago!

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	Message #144 of 8173

Re: Digest Number 24

Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:59 pm
"Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@xxxxxx.xxxx>


> Ok, How many 'Data' lines do you have?

None

> Also, what exactly do you mean by 'internal variable', if its
> just a program variable then this won't create a problem.

Set Interpreter, Variable Name Buffer Size.

> Finally, have you tried the compiler shell seperatly from amos?
> This could sort the problem out.

Yes I tried it. No it didn't work.

> Hope you get it sorted out, See ya.

Thanks for the help, but I did what I always seem to do after posting
a problem to the list. I solved it 10 minutes later.
Basically there is a bit that uses too many Else If's. I had to
replace them with lots of normal IFs and now it works.
I think we really need a CASE statement in AMOS 3!

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|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- |
| game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator |
|game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II |
| game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator|
| dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault|
| pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | |
| game/shoot/KillEmAll | | |
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	Message #145 of 8173

Arexx

Wed Dec 31, 1969 11:59 pm
"Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@xxxxxx.xxxx>


I've been adding an arexx interface to Backbone and whilst it
generally seems to work great using the GUI Ext to wait for Arexx
Calls now and again the program completely locks up upon executing an
arexx script.
To do this I'd do:
exec "run rx Rexx:Example1.rexx"

Does anyone know what could cause a lock up? I think it is something
to do with exec statement but its quite hard to test programs whilst
usng the GUI extension so I'm having trouble locating it. Especially
seen as I have to reboot each time...

Thanks,
-Murray

--

Alastair \\|// malcolm.murray@...
Murray (o o) http://welcome.to/muzzasoft
|~~~~~~oOOo~(_)~oOOo~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
| ---===ON AMINET===--- |dev/misc/Backbone | --==IN PRODUCTION==-- |
| game/shoot/Hanger18 |game/shoot/Traitor| The Turtleminator |
|game/jump/BananaIslands| game/role/CHAOS | Hangar 18 II |
| game/shoot/Extinct | game/jump/Blobby | Backbone - Game Creator|
| dev/amos/KeyState | dev/amos/PicPack |Star Trek - BORG Assault|
| pix/nicon/TrekNIcons | game/shoot/XII | |
| game/shoot/KillEmAll | | |
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	Message #146 of 8173

Re: HTTP Interface [4]

Mon Jun 29, 1998 1:53 am
Andy H <geosync@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>


Hi Phil,

> Got It, Still the same Problem, Extension [y] not loaded when it Is, I
> followed the install guide, did the same as I said 2 Mails ago!
Just as an experiment, try opening a new program and type some GUI
commmands in fresh, rather than loading in the program. I remember
having to do this once for the GUI extension.

Andy H


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	Message #147 of 8173

Re: New AMOS + Compiler

Mon Jun 29, 1998 8:13 am
"Engvall, Sofia" <Sofia.Engvall@xxxxxx.xxxx>


> Secondly... bloody AMOS compiler.
> My program Backbone is getting quite large now and all of a sudden
> AMOS refuses to compile it (with or without GUI compiler). Usually it
> just stops dead 30% of the way through but on the rare occasion when
> it does compile it, the program doesn't work. Errors are also
> reported where there aren't any. Once it even wrote a 10MB file onto
> my Hard Drive, filling it up and then crashing it... then I had to
> spend 2 days repairing it.
> Does anyone know what can cause AMOS to stop compiling something? It
> compiles other programs fine. I have tried the long option but that
> doesn't help.
> I had to change one of the internal variables in AMOS because some of
> my procedures were getting very long. I can't remember what the
> variable is called, could this be the problem?
>
> Thanks,
> -Murray

Hi Murray! :-)

The same thing happened to me... until I used the Set Buffer command to
increase the buffer... :-)

Have a nice day!!!

/Sofia


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	Message #148 of 8173

FD Extension: Is there a guide?

Mon Jun 29, 1998 11:19 am
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


Is there an AmigaGuide for it? The only files in the archive I
downloaded are FDLib, FDlib.info and FDlib.readme. I don't have the
previous archive (I have FD v2.0) and can not seem to find it on Aminet.
I can not figure out how to make it work. I can do an Add but after
that, nothing happens and nothing works (buttons do nothing).

> Thanks.
>
> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)
>


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	Message #149 of 8173

Amiga RKMs still good?

Mon Jun 29, 1998 11:21 am
"Cox, Michael D" <michael.cox@xxx.xxxx>


> I was wondering if the RKMs are worth buying still. I mostly program
> in AMOS, a little Blitz, some assembler and a smidgen of HiSoft BASIC
> 2. So, I am not sure how much of a help the RKMs would be for these
> languages (besides assembler from which I only make small routines).
>
> Since I have OS3.0 and would probably be doing more and more things
> geared for OS3.x, would the RKMs be helpful? I assume for backward
> compatibility and for commands that do not change. Is there a better
> source for OS3.x RKM like documents? For instance, isn't cd.device a
> 3.x device? Is it explained in the current RKMs?
>
> What about that developer CD? Is it worth it? I mean I don't plan on
> writing anything commercial or cutting edge. Right now I'd like to
> make a CD player and a small, turn-based internet game. Where do I
> look to make my apps OS friendly?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Michael Cox
> --
> EDS ULANA II WWW: http://www.eds-ms.com/superstore
> (703)742-2991 (V) Email: Michael.Cox@...
> (703)742-2543 (F)


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	Message #150 of 8173

SV: [amos-list] Arexx

Mon Jun 29, 1998 12:25 pm
<Magnus.Sjoberg@xxxx.xx>


> "Alastair Murray" <malcolm.murray@...> wrote:
>
>I've been adding an arexx interface to Backbone and whilst it
>generally seems to work great using the GUI Ext to wait for
Arexx
>Calls now and again the program completely locks up upon
executing an
>arexx script.
>To do this I'd do:
>exec "run rx Rexx:Example1.rexx"

>Does anyone know what could cause a lock up? I think it is
something
>to do with exec statement but its quite hard to test programs
whilst
>usng the GUI extension so I'm having trouble locating it.
Especially
>seen as I have to reboot each time...

I'm usually uses GuiReq() in these cases.
Insert some of those with some info-text between the commands
you suspect.
And while you at it, you can present some status variables as
well.

Happy bug-hunting
Magnus


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	Message #151 of 8173

Getting my Program out there......

Mon Jun 29, 1998 11:12 pm
<Declan_Gorman@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>


I am releasing my first shareware project soon and obviously I am
looking to get as much attention as possible. What does a guy have to
do to get his programmed noticed by the right people. I am thinking
web search engines and magazines but I am thinking there is more. Any
ideas, advice you can give me?

If your interested there is info and a download available at
http://members.tripod.com/~Declan/midi_com.htm


Declan.


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	Message #152 of 8173

Re: GUI Extension

Mon Jun 29, 1998 12:05 pm
Peter Cahill <cahill4@xxx.xxx>


On 28-Jun-98, Pietro Ghizzoni wrote:
>From: Pietro Ghizzoni <ghizzo@...>

>Hello Peter

>> Hi,
>>
>> when converting a .gui file to .abk in
>> the GUI Extension if I have a 'getfile' gadget, it
>> wants to put a image over the getfile gadget. (via a .img file)
>>
>> Is there a way of stopping it from doing this ?

>No. The gadtools.library (.. and so the GUI Ext) doesn't support the getfile
>gadget. (it's a BOOPSI gadget). Just create a button gadget, and attach the
>getfile image.

Ive since done this, thanks though.


>> Also for the GUI Paste Bob command, do I NEED to
>> draw the bob onto a button or something as it wont
>> draw the image onto a blank space in a GUI window ?

>Where is the problem?

Ive fixed this also,
AMOS Paste bob 0,x,y is the same as:
GUI Paste bob 1,x,y

and in my code i was useing Gui Paste Bob 0,x,y so it was sayinf
that the image didnt exist or summat.

>
>> Finally, The Hot Link Converter keeps crashing for me,
>> when I click on 'Browse' then I pick a .abk file and
>> it says 'Loading' in the status text gadget and then it crash's
>> its a 30k gui file before converting to .abk, is this
>> file to big or something ?

>Uh :( Could you please send me your GUI file.

Yeah, Ive sent it in a private mail

The GUI displays fine with GUI OPEN blah,blah but it wont with
the HotLinks Ed.


cya,
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	Message #153 of 8173

Re: Getting my Program out there......

Tue Jun 30, 1998 1:38 am
Andy Gibson <andy@xxxxxxx.xxxxx.xx.xxx>


This message arrived in my mail box:
Date: Monday 29-Jun-98
Time: 22:12:05
Name: Declan_Gorman@...
Subject: [amos-list] Getting my Program out there......
So here's a reply...

Hi there,

>
> I am releasing my first shareware project soon and obviously I am
> looking to get as much attention as possible. What does a guy have to
> do to get his programmed noticed by the right people.

You could give F1 Software a try. Send Phil a demo or better still,
full version of your game for evaluation.

Please do NOT email it to him without clearing the file size with him
1st of all though :-)

phil@...

Or simply send your game into Amiga Format and CU and see if they will
review it.

I'd also gladly add a link to your web site via mine if you send me a
banner (400*40 max) and some text.

Go to my web site and take a look at my links page to see what I mean.

--
Andy Gibson - AGAS Productions

(aka SKiDZ/A51)

email: andy@...
web : http://www.agasinc.demon.co.uk

Member of Team *AMIGA*


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		Message #154 of 8173

Re: Amiga RKMs still good?

Tue Jun 30, 1998 2:27 am
Richard Griffith <ragriffi@xxxxxxx.xxxx>


On 29-Jun-98, Cox, Michael D wrote:

> I was wondering if the RKMs are worth buying still. I mostly program
> in AMOS, a little Blitz, some assembler and a smidgen of HiSoft BASIC
> 2. So, I am not sure how much of a help the RKMs would be for these
> languages (besides assembler from which I only make small routines).

If you can find a set, they are worth their weight in gold IMHO.
Whatever language you use, underneath it is still the Amiga OS,
and there is no better guide to using it effectively. Just as a
point of reference, a huge number of questions that I see on this
list could easily be answered in detail with the RKM's. Libraries
and Devices portions are the most useful. Hardware is interesting,
but dated, and largely unneeded if you are going for "OS friendly".
The Autodocs is probably not terribly useful, as this has changed
more (and for the beter, I might add) than any other area, and is
probably best obtained via the developer CD.

> Since I have OS3.0 and would probably be doing more and more things
> geared for OS3.x, would the RKMs be helpful? I assume for backward
> compatibility and for commands that do not change. Is there a better
> source for OS3.x RKM like documents? For instance, isn't cd.device a
> 3.x device? Is it explained in the current RKMs?

The majority of 3.x was in place in 2.1, so the older RKM's are
still largely current. Most of the core principals remain constant,
so even a 1.3 Libs and Devs manual can be quite helpful (My printed
copy is 1.3) Earlier than 1.3 is probably pushing it too far.
As for the cd.device, although no RKM was ever issued for OS3 or
beyond, the Amiga OS 'device' abstraction is consistent, and the
explainations of devices within the RKM, coupled with the specifics
for the cd.device, which can be obtained from an electronic copy
of the Autodocs, should be virtually everything one could need.

> What about that developer CD? Is it worth it? I mean I don't plan on
> writing anything commercial or cutting edge. Right now I'd like to
> make a CD player and a small, turn-based internet game. Where do I
> look to make my apps OS friendly?

Even if you never get the RKM's, *get the CD!* It is full of good
stuff that *any* developer for the Amiga should know. The autodocs
are available as plain text, as well as well linked amigaguide
files, linked not only to related doc files, but the include files
detailing strutures, and other nuances as well. Also a valuable
reference are the Amiga Mail articles, the publication of the old
Commodore Applications and Technical Support (CATS) group. The
later articles especially cover some topics not covered adequately
anywhere else. Plus, lots of examples (mostly SAS/C) and lots of
tools for testing and debugging. Although some parts of the CD
can be obtained elsewhere, having it all in one place (and under
one clickable index) is a real godsend.

I should note that the old CATS Developer CD 2.0 had electronic
versions of the RKM's. It was VERY cool, but short of prying it
from the still clutching fingers of a deceased developer, it is
unobtainable. As of the Amiga Developer CD V1.1, Amiga still had
not managed to obtain the rights to the electronic versions,
but hopefully that will be solved, one way or another, soon.


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	Message #155 of 8173

Re: Getting my Program out there......

Tue Jun 30, 1998 2:03 am
Andy H <geosync@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>


Hi Declan,

> From: Declan_Gorman@...
> I am releasing my first shareware project soon and obviously I am
> looking to get as much attention as possible. What does a guy have to
> do to get his programmed noticed by the right people.

Contact Amiga Flame first.
"Philip Cosby, Editor of Amiga Flame" <Philip@...>
Alot of people visit there and he may post a news article on your game.
Web Site: http://www.amigaflame.co.uk/

Amiga Nutta is another good one.
"David Flaherty" <dflaherty@...>
Web site: Http://www.nutts.demon.co.uk/

This is another good person to contact, for "Amiga Games"
"Eddie Ivanov" <eivanov@...>
Web site: http://www.tfs.net/~eivanov/

If it`s really good try getting this guys attention from Amiga Format.
"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@...>

Hope this helps. The other thing to do is subscribe to all the
international search engines such as Excite, Yahoo, WebCrawler &
Infoseek and imbed some words in a html doc for which you wish the page
to be found by, ie. Amiga Games, games, game, shareware etc.

Seeya,
Andy H.


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